I so wanted to like this guy too…

  • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
    30·
    1 year ago

    Half of my potential comments in this community end this way … I just stare into the void, wonder if my humor makes any sense and then fifty percent of the time just delete what I just wrote.

    I would have been killed off on the second day Voyager got lost in the Delta quadrant.

    • Stamets@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
      14·
      1 year ago

      Hey come on! We’re all kind and great people here! You can trust us. That’s what Starfleet is all about

    • CmdrShepard@lemmy.oneEnglish
      8·
      1 year ago

      You gotta lean into it. If Keiko and Kess could make it most of the way through the series, so can you!

    • Zorque@kbin.social
      5·
      1 year ago

      Hey now, don’t sell yourself short. I’m sure you would have died on the first day!

      • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        Red Shirts … we are the honorary Red Shirts of Risa

        There are the main contributors with their never ending supply of memes, everyone knows them and love them.

        And then there’s us, the Red Shirts, who just step in from time to time and every once in a while we just get shot down and no one ever notices.

        To the Red Shirts, my friend … wear the uniform with pride, we are the Re …

  • experbia@kbin.social
    281·
    1 year ago

    Janeway is my favorite captain for sure. The others are all remarkable, because of course they are, but whenever I watch Voyager, I am reminded of how much more I like her over the others.

    She had (and used) this great guile to serve her and her crew’s needs. She didn’t readily break her principles, but would intelligently question them when they didn’t appear to align with the greater good or her responsibilities.

    She was both flexible and reliable. I feel that some viewers saw that as unpredictability, but I don’t think so. She actively did more to help her crew in every way than any other captain we’ve seen.

    • SSTF@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      1 year ago

      I find her erratic from episode to episode.

      Sometimes she’s a by-the-book “We must be a light in the darkness” type who spreads Starfleet ideals no matter the cost. Sometimes she’s Starship Troopers levels of “You do it right or I’ll shoot you myself.”

      From what I understand this is because there were two factions in the writers room regarding who Janeway was as a character.

      I call this the Coffee vs No Coffee divide.

    • Stamets@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
      91·
      1 year ago

      She’s not my favorite but I do rank her real high for all the reasons you mentioned. I also think she’s the Captain who stands for Starfleet the most. She sacrificed a lot to hold up Starfleet ideals

    • SSTF@lemmy.worldEnglish
      51·
      1 year ago

      Trek heresy, but in my personal top five list from all the shows, Voyager takes two slots and TNG gets none.

        • SSTF@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          This is my personal list. While I know that academically TNG had a lot of high concept scifi, and was doing it before it was popular in TV, I don’t connect with it as much.

          I feel that a lot of TNG episodes are worthy of being called great but I just don’t connect with them.

          For what it’s worth, my top all time Trek episode is Voyager’s Living Witness.

            • SSTF@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              The characters mostly. A combination of the writing and acting. I don’t dislike them (mostly) but I don’t feel in my feelings as compelled by Data’s journey for humanity as I do by the Doctor’s, for example.

              Also the interior of the Enterprise-D is kind of hideous to me. Not that it’s a huge factor, but I like the softer lighting of Voyager or the NX. Even DS9’s intentional ugliness wraps around and I find it comfy. The Enterprise-D just looks like a garish 80s hotel.