Sen. John Fetterman (D-Penn.) called some of his colleagues’ quickness to blame Israel for the hospital blast in Gaza “disturbing” in a statement Wednesday.
“It’s truly disturbing that Members of Congress rushed to blame Israel for the hospital tragedy in Gaza,” Fetterman said in a post on X, formerly Twitter.
And it looks more and more like Fetterman is right. That video showing the rocket launch from Gaza arcing back towards the hospital is pretty damning.
Israel should still be held to account for its oppression and subjugation of Palestine, but it’s important not to forget that Hamas is a brutal terrorist regime that murders and “disappears” Palestinians who speak up against them. Hamas is not Palestine, and the Palestinians deserve better.
Yeah frankly I’m tired of this rhetoric that you have to either be 100% pro Isreal or 100% pro hamas. It’s possible to condemn Hamas while also condemning the treatment of the Palestinian people at the hands of Israel
They’ve been killing off any members who supported peace with Israel for decades…
A neutral third party should come in an subjegate both equally! /s
“Who would take the word of a group that just massacred innocent Israeli civilians over our key ally?” he added.
Anyone who knows the history of our ‘key ally’.
Well, that’s like taking the word of al-Qaeda at face value because you know the history of the United States.
More that I wouldn’t regard our ‘key ally’ as particularly trustworthy. If Pakistan and the Taliban contradict each other, I’m not likely to take the word of either as gospel.
No reason to take Israel or the IDF at their word, though.
Here is the evidence that’s currently publicly available: https://www.npr.org/2023/10/18/1206795861/heres-the-available-evidence-of-what-happened-at-al-ahli-arab-hospital-in-gaza
Yeah, I lean towards a Hamas-aligned misfire at this point, but I don’t regard skepticism of the Israeli claim as inherently unreasonable.
Kind of like djt and ksa denying involvement with dismemberment and murder of Kashoggi.
this. its like I don’t trust either group so lets see if there is any actual evidence which I think is what fetterman is actually saying. I love that guy.
Which you, obviously, do not.
You’re right, Israel would never knowingly harm innocent Palestinians, thank you for the correction.
Hey, don’t sass me, you’re the guy going “yay team” for the folks raping and beating civilans then carting at least one person’s body around the streets to be spit upon.
“Don’t sass me”, eh? You their dad or something?
And that’s a mighty bold claim you’ve made there. They’re cheering on Hamas, are they? Mind linking the parts that say that? Cuz all I’m seeing is skepticism of Israel. Hardly the same thing. Don’t make me bust out the definition of “false dichotomy”, sport.
Anybody who has been through a war knows the term “fog of war” is absolutely accurate. The first story is rarely true. But, it’s the first story, and it will be believed, due to bias confirmationm, even after it has been disproved.
“A lie can get round the world before the truth has got its boots on.”
But the truth is that these two sides have been killing each other since before my parents were born and I’m too sick of all of it to give a damn. Nothing will stop either of them so maybe if they kill each other entirely we will finally have peace in The Holiest Place on Earth.
Oh wait, no, Christians will still get into fights there.
Terry Pratchett?
Glad somebody recognized it :)
What’s sad is all these media companies race each other to be the first one out there. In the digital realm it is simple to offer contractions and edits so they have no reason to wait until all the facts.
Just pump out anything that will generate engagement, who cares if most don’t see the retraction. They got their clicks so they don’t care
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/03/02/trump-campaign-bad-america-good-cbs
Man, who would have expected the ride we’re all having right now? This is pretty amazing… Who would have thought that this circus would come to town?
But, you know–it may not be good for America, but it’s damn good for CBS, that’s all I got to say.
So what can I say? It’s–you know, the money’s rolling in, and this is fun.
- CBS CEO
Yes its a real leap to link the people carpet bombing the area with a hospital being bombed.
They’re being very indiscriminate and almost certainly committing a copious amount of war crimes, but what they are doing is not carpet bombing. If it was, there would be nothing left of Gaza by now, and one particular building being bombed would not be noteworthy.
They had actually stopped their air raids before this happened. I am not saying they aren’t going to bomb more but I am pointing out that people jumped to point the finger suspiciously fast.
Maybe I’m crazy, but the series of events seems incredibly obvious from the videos linked in that article. A rocket is fired from a position far away from the hospital that seems typical of the ones used by Hamas. Israel intercepted it above the hospital and it broke apart. The explodey bit fell out of the sky and landed near the hospital, making a big boom and killing people.
This is what happens when you hurl deadly explosives at each other over densely populated areas. Everyone sucks here.
I think it’s the missile failing and breaking apart, I don’t think interceptor missiles would be able to meet them so soon after launch
The group defending themselves from missile attacks assumes no blame here. That’s straight up victim blaming.
Just to be clear, I’m not trying to blame anyone. I’m saying it seems pretty clear that neither side intended to hit the hospital.
Russia did not intend to blow a civilian plane out of the sky when they first invaded Ukraine either.
I don’t think Hamas did this intentional but they certainly tried to blame it on Israel.
Everyone sucks here.
???
Yes, both sides are waging a war in an area densely populated with civilians, and innocent people are dying. Everyone sucks here, as is often the case in war.
The people who did not start the war are not to blame for the war.
This is like saying Ukraine should be trading land for peace talks
If blood libel was true, would it have justified the shoa?
Fucking for real. They’ve done shit like this before. Before this current war. Maybe the thing people should be disturbed about, is that Israel is so well known for these types of war crimes, that they’re the first one everyone thinks of when it happens.
Ok. You know that is a complete lie when you say carpet bombing. But I suppose that is ok to lie. Are you a republican in that your fine with their lies?
The mass murder of Palestinians in the last 2 weeks is not disturbing however
I’d still say there’s a chance it was them… And it was just the most logical assumption to make.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
called some of his colleagues’ quickness to blame Israel for the hospital blast in Gaza “disturbing” in a statement Wednesday.
“It’s truly disturbing that Members of Congress rushed to blame Israel for the hospital tragedy in Gaza,” Fetterman said in a post on X, formerly Twitter.
In a follow-up post, Fetterman pledged to “always stand with Israel” and said he “look[s] forward to supporting any military, intelligence, or humanitarian aid to get the job done.”
The Democratic senator’s pointed comments come after U.S. intelligence on Wednesday independently determined that a deadly blast at a hospital in Gaza was the result of a failed rocket launch by Palestinian militants, not by an Israeli airstrike.
Some members of Congress reposted reports that blamed Israel for the attack, including Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.), who also sharply criticized President Biden for not encouraging a ceasefire.
“We must support Israel in their efforts to eliminate the Hamas terrorists who slaughtered innocent men, women, and children.
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Liberals are useless.
And the more investigation that comes out the more it’s revealed that Israeli government story is wrong: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/19/what-hit-ahli-hospital-in-gaza
Lol aljazeera is where you’re getting your news.
Why not?
The IDF seems incapable of telling the truth, so I don’t know whatever they’re saying, but evidence is pointing towards a misfire at the moment. I’m not sure if I agree with Al Jazeera’s conclusion here, because it would mean the coverage and responsiveness of the iron dome would be insane.
They’ve already hit 20 hospitals in addition to apartment buildings and schools.
Ok, I’ll bite. Source?
Not sure of the 20 hospitals, but here’s the wire service article about the school being bombed this week.
https://unwatch.org/un-admits-palestinians-fired-rockets-unrwa-schools/
It should be noted that Hamas is known to use UNRWA schools for military purposes, precisely so that when Israel retaliates, they can run stories like this about how the IDF is attacking schools. It should also be noted that it is a war crime to intentionally use civilian infrastructure for military purposes, and that doing so does make them valid and legal military targets (though steps should still be taken to minimize casualties).
(apologies for the less-than-neutral source, but it is citing UN documents)
You have to look deep in his ass… good luck
