• jupyter_rain@discuss.tchncs.de
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    1 year ago

    “It wasn’t long ago that it was reported that Chinese companies are buying up US chipmaking equipment to make advanced semiconductors of their own”.

    So it’s just a matter of time, I guess, till China has their own Chips anyway.

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        they’ve got a long way to go.

        That’s what they said about chips for Huawei phones and Huawei has already caught up.

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            As I said I do not think that means we should relax. Which is what happened with Huawei.

            But it’s not like Huawei needed 10 to 15 years to catch up to the then-current state of technology as everybody claimed. So no, not “a long way to go”.

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                What are we going to do to counter it, bomb their facilities? We were convenient but they don’t need us. We can’t stall their progress without starting a war.

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      I mean of course they will be looking into that… But it’s not a trivial thing… It’s not a tomorrow we have it working kind of thing…

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    Now that Russia has been shown to be an empty Matroyska doll, our defense posture is just going to be fucking over China. I wonder how that’s going to change our overall defense strategies otherwise.

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    Umm…most hardward IS made in china, they have more rare earth metals than any place in the milky way. More at 11

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      Tell me you know nothing about semiconductor design, fabrication, and manufacturing with out telling me you know nothing about semiconductor design, fabrication, and manufacturing

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      Rare earth metals aren’t rare. They are everywhere on earth. China just has the most easily accessible sources at the moment

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      China makes most of the silicon wafers that chips are made out of. Not because they’re the only ones who can, but because they have the resources, infrastructure, and manpower to do it cheaper than anyone else. High end chips aren’t manufactured in mainland China though. Taiwan, South Korea, and the US do most of that.

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      any place in the milky way

      This is kind of hilarious phrasing because these metals are actually more abundant everywhere except for Earth because on earth where they sunk down to the core of the planet. inside of asteroids and things like that there’s not enough gravity for that to happen.

      Rare earth metals are actually pretty common everywhere else, China just cornered the market by having no environmental regulations, paying people to come into the United States and bitch whenever we make a rare earth facility because of environmental impacts, and using subsidy to undercut the rest of the world.

      The moment trying to tries to block the world off where metal creation in the world will take off again.

    • Nic Cage@lemmy.world
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      In addition to knowing less than nothing about semiconductor design and manufacturing, you have no idea about elemental composition of objects in space.

      “they have more rare earth metals than any place in the Milky Way”

      Now at 11! Iron, nickel, platinum, iridium, and more just hanging out in our solar system? Meet 16 Psyche! The dense, metal rich asteroid that has potential to supply the world with rare earth elements!

      The Milky Way is a very, very large place my friend, there is an almost guaranteed certainty there is another body with a far higher concentration of what we call rare earth elements than China or the entirety of Earth itself.