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    Fireman saves kitten and no money changed hands. Fuck that communist bastard fireman! /s

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    This is a regular bit on FOX News. The list all the platform points of a Democratic official and play it as if it’s offensive when they should be positive points and are, popular policies according to most polls.

    I’ve seen lists played this way on FOX for years now, including the original Green New Deal.

    I don’t understand how this works, and am disquieted that it does. FOX is super confident in the thrall it has over it’s viewership.

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      It’s negative programming. It’s a psychological technique used to prevent the subject from engaging with a subject earnestly when a source of free information is available by ‘poisoning the well’ ahead of time by associating the idea with an ‘opposed ideology’ thus discrediting the source of further information ahead of time.

      Works on enough people to matter.

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      It works because the average Fox News viewer:

      1. Is old, and already has Medicare, and doesn’t want it changed.
      2. Is retired and would see no benefit from a 32 hour work week
      3. is old, and sees environmental regulations as costs to them now with benefits in a future they won’t see
      4. Is old and retired and would see no benefit from free college
      5. is old and probably owns a house substantially paid off, and would see no benefit from a government housing program
      6. is a selfish asshole who doesn’t want others to enjoy these benefits, not even their own children
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        That gives me a glimmer of hope, that the boomers dying off (and some of us Xers) will allow the Overton window to shift again away from tribalism and towards mutualist values.

        It is curious though, since the silent generation and greatest generation both had a sense of legacy, e.g. planting trees knowing you will not live to feel their shade. I wonder if it’s related to the rise of consumerism and the disposable product economy.

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    Clown world is the only place this could not be a joke. Like what else could they have on there? Free oral sex on request? Support for kittens?

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    When you’re so racist and classist, that you’ve become afraid of “all”.

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        Well those things are obviously bad, if they weren’t, their “team” wouldn’t fight so hard against it!

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    I like how the Free Palestine bit clearly wasn’t part of whatever presentation they stole this from.

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    Health care ? Stable economy ? You really want that ?

    You’ll end up just like Boomers with fancy “pensions” and “cabins” and happy grandkids DO YOU REALLY want tha… yeah that sounds pretty pretty pretty good comrade.

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    Anybody has the video? I wanna know if this is real and if it is I wanna see them try to spin that the bad way.

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    If you see this and think these things are bad things to have in your country, you are seriously fucked in the head and I hope you die a horrible death from colon cancer.

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    What blows my mind is that basically all of these fit in with fiscal conservative ethos.

    • Healthcare would benefit the most from economy of scale, which is the bedrock of corporation above the mom and pop level.
    • Education is literally capital reinvestment for sustained growth.
    • Housing is a commodity like like any other.
    • 32 hour work weeks are scientifically proven to increase productivity and decrease Fraud, Waste, and Abuse.
    • Taxation is another instance of capital reinvestment for sustained growth. Hell, it’s (demi-god of capitalism) Henry Ford’s “pay the line workers enough to buy my products”.
    • The Green New Deal is not quite as cut and dry, but there is plenty of both “leveling the playing field to promote free market competition” against fossil fuel subsidies AND capital reinvestment.

    Palestine opens a whole other can of billions of dollars of foreign government spending separate from the ethical concerns, which is less clear cut on market economics and would need to be an essay by itself. So I will just stick with the 6 out of 7 low hanging fruits for this argument, and mock the completely not fiscally conservating mess the Republican party has become.

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      There was a time where I was moderate, willing to believe the word of conservatives who said they wanted fiscal responsibility. I now know that they are craven liars, and have become fully radicalized.

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        Preach! I still consider myself to be a moderate or centrist as a leftist libertarian (social progressive and fiscal conservative), and also haven’t believed Republicans were actual fiscal conservatives since Bush Jr. They have been only social conservatives since arguably at least Regan. Still pissed off that insane Ayn Rand utopian individualists and Christian Nationalists became the entire libertarian movement.

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      Green New Deal is also incredibly sound economics and conservative ethos. Economically speaking, which is better: something you have to spend a bunch of time and effort mining for and then can only ever use it once or something you spend a bit more effort mining and manufacturing, but then can receive gains off your investment for decades? Gains that exceed your initial investment well before expected end of life.

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        And that’s just the economics of the gains; completely forgoing the cumulative costs burdened upon society by climate-change (increased heating/cooling-costs, early deaths because of pollution, crops failing and the mass-migration as a result of that). Continuing with fossil fuel is very very dumb if you look at the medium to long term.

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          For sure, but I focused on just the easily quantifiable economic returns because most people who would call the Green New Deal the Green New Scam are also climate change deniers. So, focusing on just their own pocketbooks with things that can easily be measured and calculated seems a better approach.

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        True, although we shouldn’t pretend that the cost for building a coal mine or developing an oil field is more single use than a solar farm or wind turbine. Many oil wells and coal mines operate for decades with relatively small operational costs after initial build out. Time in production difference is not statistically significant enough to make that a linchpin argument.

        The jobs created by solar and wind in R&D, manufacturing, and construction and maintenance, along with most importantly the carbon emissions benefits are the most relevant economic points. Nuclear should also be part of the Green New Deal, but fossil fuel companies successfully fear mongered that sector to death.

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      The conservatives abandoned ethos long ago in favor of being against everything the progressives are for.

      One of the bits that blew my mind was watching foreign politics and learning other countries have right wings further left than our own left. Fucking Overton windows.

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      Healthcare would benefit the most from economy of scale

      would it? i’ve had far worse experience in large medical systems than i have in small clinics.

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        From a customer service standpoint, no, but I was talking about the cost perspective. A single payer system financing small clinics would be the best answer here, getting rid of the corporate hospital impersonality while keeping costs low. If a doctors office doesn’t have to deal with the insurance middle men and pharmacy middle men who are parasitically draining the system, you will have more neighborhood clinics and hospitals that care about their city’s residents.