• yoru77@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 hours ago

    Not gonna lie, I’m impressed by China. I don’t think it’s the greatest country ever, but I could see it’s going in a better direction than most countries

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        9 hours ago

        i was thinking of joining that instance since im finnish but saw the “no nazis, qanon, incels or similar whackos” rule and figured that probably includes everyone to the left of the left alliance

        interesting to see people from that instance are just blatantly posting racist shit elsewhere lol

        seems like joining .ml instead was a good idea

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          9 hours ago

          and then i’m instantly proven wrong by one of the good ones. not all finns are as stupid or evil as it seems online (i should know, i’m finnish also)

          but yeah, i wouldn’t bother with that place. they seem to still harbor their liberal brain worms and western chauvinistic tendencies over there. i suggest lemmygrad and hexbear also for a more nuanced experience, though discourse in finnish seems light

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            8 hours ago

            yeah.

            i do visit their suomi (finland) and arkisuomi (every day finland) sublemmies cus they seem fine for now, cus there aren’t really any other finnish spaces here and seem mostly fine, at least for now

            but the moment i start seeing shit like this from the sopuli user im noping the fuck out lol

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        9 hours ago

        it was, by the soviets in ww2.

        it’s just that the fascist ideology has been resurfacing ever since the soviet union collapsed

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          9 hours ago

          Maybe they were I just find this hard to believe given they were flying swastikas as late as 2023 in their air force.

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            9 hours ago

            most people saw it as a symbol from the pre-nazi era and brushed over the fact that the symbol’s “donor” ended up as a nazi later.

            thats at least what i feel like and what i want to believe. maybe its just copium

            i think most people here didn’t and still don’t even know about this fact, i didn’t either, until i shifted far to the left

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      7 hours ago

      The composition of government officials in leadership positions is very different in China than other countries. More than 40% of them hold STEM related degrees. But more importantly it’s not like they’re exempt from the same mass surveillance everyone else is. There is no privacy, but it’s generally seen as a tradeoff for security. With such intense punishments and mass surveillance, I really don’t think they are.

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      10 hours ago

      Each time you say ccp instead of cpc you’re outing your ethnosupermacist tendencies, regardless of how much internalized they may be

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        So true, by not using an acronym i have never heard of in my life until just now, that i don’t know what it stands for as opposed to ccp, I’m outing my ethnosupremacist tendencies. I am also very likely to start using this other acronym with no explanation because some random commentor on lemmy said so!

        I’m not the guy you replied to but how disconnected from reality do you have to be for that statement?

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          an acronym i have never heard of in my life until just now,

          Well that just proves you aren’t qualified to be a part of this conversation.

          Unless you have investigated a problem, you will be deprived of the right to speak on it. Isn’t that too harsh? Not in the least. When you have not probed into a problem, into the present facts and its past history, and know nothing of its essentials, whatever you say about it will undoubtedly be nonsense.

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          I don’t know, you tell us.
          How disconnected are you from reality?

          If you were connected to reality, you would have heard of the correct acronym instead of the incorrect one.
          It’s literally the reality. That’s the explanation.

          It would be like me calling you disconnected from reality for being told to call the president of Ukraine Zelensky and the president of Usonia Trump because I only heard of Elensky and Drumpf.

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      it’s insane how you guys NEED to believe that everyone else is secretly as bad as america

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        11 hours ago

        Not everyone but most, you think americans are genetically inferior and all other humans are saints? No history proves all elite are corrupt on average.

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          Lmfao we went from

          capitalism is better because it fits human nature

          To

          humane nature is being bad therefore China can’t be better to its citizens than the US

          ???

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          It’s amazing that you are literally so incapable of conceptualizing systemic issues, I.e. problems caused by material conditions enforced by the systems of government, that you immediately go to genetics/racism as the only other possible reason Americans are ruled by Pedos.

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          9 hours ago

          you think americans are genetically inferior

          No however they do however have a far worse system and given that existence precedes thought this leads to far worse outcomes in many regards such as this.

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      I don’t know what this ccp is, but I definitely do not think that CPC officials are diddling kids. It’s incredible how westerners have infinite capacity to project what goes on in their own rotten societies on everyone else.

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          I didn’t say nobody there is rotten. But what I do know is that people have been ejected from CPC and even jailed for far less, something that doesn’t happen in the west. Having actual accountability is the difference.

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            13 hours ago

            Ah then I misunderstood what you meant with “I definitely do not think that CPC officials are diddling kids”, sorry.

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            you’re drawing a very long bow there. I lived in the PRC for a long time and they had their fair share of issues like this to deal with; that said, white collar crime and sex crimes in general go largely unpunished in patriarchal cultures, so no surprise in either case.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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              It is now well documented that the west is ruled by pedos who are completely and utterly unaccountable. Meanwhile, the same cannot be said for CPC. Sure, there is corruption and crime in China, just like in every human society. But we see people actually being held accountable when crimes are discovered. That’s the fucking difference.

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                  sure bud, people in China are regularly sentenced for corruption which never happens in the west. But some internet trolls says there’s absolutely no difference between the two systems so it must be true.