Kinda has a stench of “the wealthy get taxed too much 😢”
The IRS doesn’t get that money. The IRS processes that money and prevents your lottery-ticket-buying-ass from hoarding it all, and redistributes some of that unnecessary wealth to the utilities and services were all invested in together as a society.
If only actual billionaires got taxed that much…
This is what happens if you take it out as a lump sum. If you choose to take your winnings over an extended period of time (20 years or something), it is taxes more like income.
That said, I totally agree with you!
The poor smuck probably claimed the lottery as an individual. He should have opened a company and claimed the ticket so that he can expense out a lot of his taxable income
/s
I am 99% sure this is not how it will work in this specific scenario but does otherwise when it’s business as usual.
Sadly, the IRS isn’t properly staffed or equip to go after rich people…
Congratulations to the lottery company who was allowed to advertise a $400m prize as $1.28b.
You’d get significantly more if you didn’t take it in a lump sum
Gotta pay for all those new agents.
The IRS is chronically underfunded. They can’t keep the money, it goes to Aunt Sam.
And btw the IRS has not enough staff to investigatevif rich people pay their fair share, therefore they go mostly for normal people.
Just wanted to point out that the IRS audit rates for the rich are higher than normal people.
[Jay McTigue:] Well, as I said, higher-income taxpayers are indeed being audited at a higher rate than lower-income taxpayers. In fact, the highest-income taxpayers, those making $5 million or more a year, right now are being audited at about 2.3%. Whereas on average the audit rate is less than 1% So there is still a focus on the higher-earning individuals.
source: https://www.gao.gov/assets/730/720478.txt
edit: pulled another GAO report bolstering my argument:
From a report on 2019 data:
“Although audit rates decreased more for higher-income taxpayers, IRS generally audited them at higher rates compared to lower-income taxpayers, as shown in the figure. However, the audit rate for lower-income taxpayers claiming the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) was higher than average. IRS officials explained that EITC audits require relatively few resources and prevent ineligible taxpayers from receiving the EITC.”
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the misleading thing about that statistic is that there are far, far fewer wealthy people than there are normal. even with the rate of audits technically being lower, the number of audits of normal people is still far, far greater, and is where the IRS’s focus truly is
my understanding is that the focus of the IRS should be on those that try to subvert paying their taxes, it seems that they believe there is an increased amount of those people in the wealthy category.
but it doesn’t make sense that they should ignore people trying to subvert taxes in the normal brackets does it? all that does is harm everyone else paying their fair share.
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I never said to ignore it for low income taxpayers, but the statistic you provided is incredibly misleading. Plus the IRS would recoup far more money by auditing higher income taxpayers at much greater rates.
edit: you are right about my assumption on ignoring the taxpayer, that was another person’s comment that I confused with yours, my apologies.
How is it misleading? It’s an incredibly simple statement that the rich are audited at a higher rate than the average person isn’t it? I didn’t say that more wealthy are audited than the common folk because it seems common sense that due to large disparity in population (common vs wealthy), that of course there are more common people audited than wealthy. I’m simply pointing out that this guys statement is incorrect, misleading, and intended to incite anger.
“the IRS has not enough staff to investigatevif rich people pay their fair share, therefore they go mostly for normal people.”
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Your statistic doesn’t support your conclusion. His statement is not contradicted, and is in fact true.
Several articles about how poorer taxpayers are significantly more likely to be targeted:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/irs-audit-eitc-five-times-as-likely-to-get-audited/
https://www.propublica.org/article/irs-sorry-but-its-just-easier-and-cheaper-to-audit-the-poor
An article about how audit rates are dropping in general, and dropping fastest for those with the highest incomes:
So we do all realize that advertised jackpots are annuitized amounts and that the vast majority take the net present value lump sum, which is usually about half the advertised amount, right?
Winner probably got about six hundred million, of which roughly forty percent was taken for taxes give or take state income tax rates.
I was with you till the last paragraph. The numbers are already there for you, so I don’t know where 6 hundred million came from.
I did not know advertised jackpots were annuitized. Thanks!
