I’m no fan of foldable phones, but it’s impressive that Huawei remains strong in the smartphone market, despite the restrictions imposed on them.
My wife still uses her 10 year old Huawei P7! And she dreads having to buy a new one, because of the enshittification of Android.
She wants the Nokia G42 for repairability, but you can’t friggin remove the stupid google search on your home screen! What an idiotic design decision by Nokia!?!?
huawei is down 7% globally from 10% market share to 3.5%, they’re not doing great, I think they’re hanging on because of their Asia sales supplemented by federal support.
the not removable Google search on the home screen and non removable date on the home screen means that I will never buy another Google phone.
also, non-expandable storage? you fucking kidding me? what is even the point of a phone if it comes with 128 GB of storage. That’s like eight good videos. It’s insane.
I have been disappointed by the pixel in literally every way, and I don’t know where to go next except probably Sony because their phones have front-facing speakers, and if I can’t get decent software on any platform at least I can listen to music with decent hardware and root the thing.
2nd note:
Yes Huawei is not #1 as they probably would be without the sanctions. But still last I heard they are taking market share again, and that’s even without the Honor brand phones. And they are still strong on innovation and very popular in Asian markets.
Instead it’s Xiaomi that is trying to take the position Huawei once had, but they are not quite as strong as Huawei in the design department, Huawei is IMO clearly #1 in the world in that regard.
I would never buy a Google phone, it’s too much control for Google IMO. Also although their cameras are generally good, your pictures may end up basically fake, and not at all look like what you took a picture of. I saw posts about someone trying to take a picture in foggy weather, and the Pixel phone cleared it all up, so the foggy effect disappeared completely, and he couldn’t disable the AI treatment that did it. So he couldn’t take a picture of what he was seeing!!! Other phones use filters too, but not filters that essentially makes the photo fake.
I don’t know where you’re getting the Huawei news, but their market share has been nose diving since 2024.
Pixel, though, I can’t believe the automatic filters that are impossible to turn off.
Even if you take a photo with .raw, there’s still post processing on every single photo so they look like dog shit.
how’s Huawei number one in the world for design? do they do anything innovative? The Huawei phones I’ve used seem pretty unremarkable, indistinguishable from oppo.
which I would also throw in a gutter.
I haven’t been impressed by anything I’ve seen on the market in years, except for the Sony Xperia, because I love front-facing speakers and I didn’t know any major companies still made them.
Huawei Market share in China increased 50% this year compared to last.
Pixel, though, I can’t believe the automatic filters that are impossible to turn off.
The Dr Dre of cameras. cheap hardware with a shitload of filtering to make it sound look good.
how’s Huawei number one in the world for design?
No doubt 10 years ago Huawei was clearly THEE leader in design. They had both amazing build quality and design. Heralded for beating Apple at the game, and putting others to shame.
Beyond that, the friggin 10 year old phone my wife has still takes amazing pictures. Huawei was very strong in innovation that actually worked, which is also why they so quickly became #1 in the world.
These are examples of Huawei still stretching what’s possible in the physical aspect of making phones thinner. Just like they beat Apple in that game more than a decade ago, while maintaining a build quality that was as premium as Apple.
The triple fold phone the OP is about, is a world first, not something that interest me personally, but still a design win over competitors.
How they look is of course subjective,
other companies made triple fold phones before Huawei, you mean that they brought it to the mass market first?
like 3,000 bucks or something right?
It’s difficult to call that innovation when we already have foldable phones, and they haven’t found a new way to do anything, they just added one more standard screen.
It’s as thick as three phones put together.
It’s good for them that they went up 50% in China, but it’s been literally federally subsidized since its inception, so a bump not crazy, and they went from 20 to 30% only in cihinq, still 3% total market share.
it sounds like you have nostalgia for Huawei, which i get, I still have nostalgia for my HTC one, that was the best phone/os I ever had, and definitely the most innovative phone company I used, 468 ppi, still higher than almost every other phone 10 years later, aluminum body, with front-facing speakers and an IR blaster, expandable storage, but they’ve gone the way of apple and Huawei and Google and the rest of them in modern times
“10 years ago Huawei was clearly THEE leader in design”
this is when I used Huawei, and my memories of it are pretty bad. plastic frame, identical iphone hardware setup, pretty low power even for the time, pretty low battery, I don’t remember them leading anything.
I remember the pictures being standard, but I don’t remember anything remarkable or innovative about them.
can you post photos from your wife’s phone versus your modern phone?
t’s difficult to call that innovation when we already have foldable phones,
It’s not the idea that’s innovation, it’s developing the technology that folds both ways seamlessly and is durable.
Just because an idea is easy to get, doesn’t mean it’s easy to make. Ideas are easy, it’s making them work that is hard.
And I’m not aware of a phone that existed previously that could do this and fold out to a single 10 inch screen.
Even if it already existed, this is apparently the first good one.
Her current phone only has 16 GB storage, and no that’s not RAM. 🤣
But what format video are you using? H265 Video at about 1.5 GB for a full movie look great on the phone. But needless to say she doesn’t use it for that at all.
I looked at Sony when I bought my current phone, but I like big screens and a Sony with comparable features to my Xiaomi 13T Pro cost almost twice what I paid, and then it still only had half the storage.
But message LED is a major feature IMO, it’s almost a Sony exclusive now.
The longest video I ever recorded was 18 years ago, about 10 mins, just to see what the camera was capable of with a new SD card I bought. Generally my videos are less than a minute now.
Obviously you wouldn’t use a 10 year old phone for your use case.
However my Xiaomi 13T Pro 512GB would probably be fine. But I currently only use 10% of the storage.
the not removable Google search on the home screen and non removable date on the home screen means that I will never buy another Google phone.
I’m fairly sure that’s just a launcher limitation, you can swap out the entire launcher to whatever you want. If you don’t want something radically different I think lawnchair is still around.
I’m no fan of foldable phones, but it’s impressive that Huawei remains strong in the smartphone market, despite the restrictions imposed on them.
My wife still uses her 10 year old Huawei P7! And she dreads having to buy a new one, because of the enshittification of Android.
She wants the Nokia G42 for repairability, but you can’t friggin remove the stupid google search on your home screen! What an idiotic design decision by Nokia!?!?
She can use a different launcher to get rid of the Google search
Thanks, that’s what I’ve heard, do you know a launcher that is free and close to original functionality?
huawei is down 7% globally from 10% market share to 3.5%, they’re not doing great, I think they’re hanging on because of their Asia sales supplemented by federal support.
the not removable Google search on the home screen and non removable date on the home screen means that I will never buy another Google phone.
also, non-expandable storage? you fucking kidding me? what is even the point of a phone if it comes with 128 GB of storage. That’s like eight good videos. It’s insane.
I have been disappointed by the pixel in literally every way, and I don’t know where to go next except probably Sony because their phones have front-facing speakers, and if I can’t get decent software on any platform at least I can listen to music with decent hardware and root the thing.
2nd note:
Yes Huawei is not #1 as they probably would be without the sanctions. But still last I heard they are taking market share again, and that’s even without the Honor brand phones. And they are still strong on innovation and very popular in Asian markets.
Instead it’s Xiaomi that is trying to take the position Huawei once had, but they are not quite as strong as Huawei in the design department, Huawei is IMO clearly #1 in the world in that regard.
I would never buy a Google phone, it’s too much control for Google IMO. Also although their cameras are generally good, your pictures may end up basically fake, and not at all look like what you took a picture of. I saw posts about someone trying to take a picture in foggy weather, and the Pixel phone cleared it all up, so the foggy effect disappeared completely, and he couldn’t disable the AI treatment that did it. So he couldn’t take a picture of what he was seeing!!! Other phones use filters too, but not filters that essentially makes the photo fake.
I don’t know where you’re getting the Huawei news, but their market share has been nose diving since 2024.
Pixel, though, I can’t believe the automatic filters that are impossible to turn off.
Even if you take a photo with .raw, there’s still post processing on every single photo so they look like dog shit.
how’s Huawei number one in the world for design? do they do anything innovative? The Huawei phones I’ve used seem pretty unremarkable, indistinguishable from oppo.
which I would also throw in a gutter.
I haven’t been impressed by anything I’ve seen on the market in years, except for the Sony Xperia, because I love front-facing speakers and I didn’t know any major companies still made them.
I’m pretty sure that’s where I’m going next.
https://www.counterpointresearch.com/insights/china-smartphone-share/
Huawei Market share in China increased 50% this year compared to last.
The Dr Dre of cameras. cheap hardware with a shitload of filtering to make it
soundlook good.No doubt 10 years ago Huawei was clearly THEE leader in design. They had both amazing build quality and design. Heralded for beating Apple at the game, and putting others to shame.
Beyond that, the friggin 10 year old phone my wife has still takes amazing pictures. Huawei was very strong in innovation that actually worked, which is also why they so quickly became #1 in the world.
Even today after they’ve been handicapped in sales which limit development budgets they are still strong in the design department.
https://carisinyal.com/en/the-slimmest-smartphone/
These are examples of Huawei still stretching what’s possible in the physical aspect of making phones thinner. Just like they beat Apple in that game more than a decade ago, while maintaining a build quality that was as premium as Apple.
The triple fold phone the OP is about, is a world first, not something that interest me personally, but still a design win over competitors.
How they look is of course subjective,
other companies made triple fold phones before Huawei, you mean that they brought it to the mass market first?
like 3,000 bucks or something right?
It’s difficult to call that innovation when we already have foldable phones, and they haven’t found a new way to do anything, they just added one more standard screen.
It’s as thick as three phones put together.
It’s good for them that they went up 50% in China, but it’s been literally federally subsidized since its inception, so a bump not crazy, and they went from 20 to 30% only in cihinq, still 3% total market share.
it sounds like you have nostalgia for Huawei, which i get, I still have nostalgia for my HTC one, that was the best phone/os I ever had, and definitely the most innovative phone company I used, 468 ppi, still higher than almost every other phone 10 years later, aluminum body, with front-facing speakers and an IR blaster, expandable storage, but they’ve gone the way of apple and Huawei and Google and the rest of them in modern times
“10 years ago Huawei was clearly THEE leader in design”
this is when I used Huawei, and my memories of it are pretty bad. plastic frame, identical iphone hardware setup, pretty low power even for the time, pretty low battery, I don’t remember them leading anything.
I remember the pictures being standard, but I don’t remember anything remarkable or innovative about them.
can you post photos from your wife’s phone versus your modern phone?
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_nexus_6p-7588.php
This was clearly the most innovative Android phone at the time.
Obviously my 4 times as expensive 9 year newer phone is superior. Especially in low light conditions.
Literally from the article:
I haven’t seen one, and three separate screens don’t count, because that’s apples and oranges.
It’s not the idea that’s innovation, it’s developing the technology that folds both ways seamlessly and is durable.
Just because an idea is easy to get, doesn’t mean it’s easy to make. Ideas are easy, it’s making them work that is hard.
And I’m not aware of a phone that existed previously that could do this and fold out to a single 10 inch screen.
Even if it already existed, this is apparently the first good one.
Her current phone only has 16 GB storage, and no that’s not RAM. 🤣
But what format video are you using? H265 Video at about 1.5 GB for a full movie look great on the phone. But needless to say she doesn’t use it for that at all.
I looked at Sony when I bought my current phone, but I like big screens and a Sony with comparable features to my Xiaomi 13T Pro cost almost twice what I paid, and then it still only had half the storage.
But message LED is a major feature IMO, it’s almost a Sony exclusive now.
when you record video, It’s almost 4 MB a second in default, so you’re using up a gig every 2 and 1/2 minutes.
sunset+walk on the beach, a gig.
say 30 minutes of a video, and you’re between 15 and 20 gigs.
Go to a concert, or a wedding, whatever and you just lost a huge percentage of your phone storage and you aren’t allowed to add more storage?
insane, very consumer unfriendly
The longest video I ever recorded was 18 years ago, about 10 mins, just to see what the camera was capable of with a new SD card I bought. Generally my videos are less than a minute now.
Obviously you wouldn’t use a 10 year old phone for your use case.
However my Xiaomi 13T Pro 512GB would probably be fine. But I currently only use 10% of the storage.
I’m fairly sure that’s just a launcher limitation, you can swap out the entire launcher to whatever you want. If you don’t want something radically different I think lawnchair is still around.
https://lawnchair.app/
thanks, I’ll check it out.