Germany urgently needs skilled workers from abroad. Now the rules for immigrants from non-EU countries are set to gradually change starting November 18, 2023. Here's what's in store.
As long as your permit is tied to a single employer for the first two years and you need to send the contract to the immigration office that then sends it to the emplyoment office, which then has to decide whether there might be a German who could do the job,then send it back and finally after three months to six month of waiting, you finally are allowed to enter the country and start working, none of these relaxed rules will really help.
The enitre process is a huge shitshow and the idea behind it remains that you the worthless foreigner should get on your knees and beg for the great heavem of Germany to grant you permission to enter. Because of that the law for modernizing citizenship still didnt pass, and probably wont because the conservatives and reactionaries are drooling with “the German citizenship is a priviledge and must not be given away for free!!!11!” at the suggestion to lower the requirement from 6-8 years to 3-5 years.
On top of that be prepared to be insulted and assaulted, if you come to Germany and look “brown” in any way. Also the next government will likely be a right populist with fascist extremist coalition so expect most of these rules to be revoked. Finally if you do come here and you do stay here, be ready for the children of your grandchildren to be considered foreigners.
You know that there is a constitution, that gives equal rights to people, and explicitly forbids discrimination based on ethnicity? As i expressed the current praxis has no rational bearing. It purely exists to make foreigners feel unwelcome, all while crying how not enough people are there to work and keep the country afloat.
Also by German law i have the perfect right to be German, as my ancestry in the area that is now considered Germany preceeds the existence of a unified Germany. But unlike other people, i realized that nationalism is stupid and to the detriment of everyone.
@Leyonhjelm@tryptaminev Funny how the same people who loved Russia when it was run by genocidal communists hate the country when its run by conservative Christians.
It’s not the norm to get insulted and assaulted if you look “brown” in big cities.
Some Shitvillage in Saxonia maybe, but usually not in big university cities
Being insulted is still prevalent. It doesn’t have to be slurs, but for example using “du” when speaking to nonwhite people in situations where “sie” would absolutely be the default. That’s one type of racist insulting that’s still very prevalent.
Yes it is. All of my friends, whoa re eprceived brown, from the people that moved to Germany six years ago, to the people whose grandparents came to Germany 60 years ago, experienced racism regurarly, and often racist violence such as getting chased after, being spit at, or in once case an ambush with knives. And this is all in Berlin, Hamburg, “Left leaning” University towns and so on.
Germany is an extremely racist country and it has gotten much worse over the past years.
I have many international friends in university and they never mentioned anything like this.
Only that the Ausländerbehörde are a bunch of entitled Assholes.
But I don’t live in Hamburg or Berlin, so I can’t comment on this, only that it’s sad that such things seem to still happen there
As long as your permit is tied to a single employer for the first two years and you need to send the contract to the immigration office that then sends it to the emplyoment office, which then has to decide whether there might be a German who could do the job,then send it back and finally after three months to six month of waiting, you finally are allowed to enter the country and start working, none of these relaxed rules will really help.
The enitre process is a huge shitshow and the idea behind it remains that you the worthless foreigner should get on your knees and beg for the great heavem of Germany to grant you permission to enter. Because of that the law for modernizing citizenship still didnt pass, and probably wont because the conservatives and reactionaries are drooling with “the German citizenship is a priviledge and must not be given away for free!!!11!” at the suggestion to lower the requirement from 6-8 years to 3-5 years.
On top of that be prepared to be insulted and assaulted, if you come to Germany and look “brown” in any way. Also the next government will likely be a right populist with fascist extremist coalition so expect most of these rules to be revoked. Finally if you do come here and you do stay here, be ready for the children of your grandchildren to be considered foreigners.
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As someone who immigrated to Belgium as skilled labor (engineering).
Sometimes there is no choice if you love someone from there.
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You know that there is a constitution, that gives equal rights to people, and explicitly forbids discrimination based on ethnicity? As i expressed the current praxis has no rational bearing. It purely exists to make foreigners feel unwelcome, all while crying how not enough people are there to work and keep the country afloat.
Also by German law i have the perfect right to be German, as my ancestry in the area that is now considered Germany preceeds the existence of a unified Germany. But unlike other people, i realized that nationalism is stupid and to the detriment of everyone.
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@Leyonhjelm @tryptaminev Funny how the same people who loved Russia when it was run by genocidal communists hate the country when its run by conservative Christians.
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@ChristiJunior @tryptaminev @Leyonhjelm Kitty history…
It doesn’t forbid discrimination against ethnic Germans sadly.
It’s not the norm to get insulted and assaulted if you look “brown” in big cities. Some Shitvillage in Saxonia maybe, but usually not in big university cities
Being insulted is still prevalent. It doesn’t have to be slurs, but for example using “du” when speaking to nonwhite people in situations where “sie” would absolutely be the default. That’s one type of racist insulting that’s still very prevalent.
Yes it is. All of my friends, whoa re eprceived brown, from the people that moved to Germany six years ago, to the people whose grandparents came to Germany 60 years ago, experienced racism regurarly, and often racist violence such as getting chased after, being spit at, or in once case an ambush with knives. And this is all in Berlin, Hamburg, “Left leaning” University towns and so on.
Germany is an extremely racist country and it has gotten much worse over the past years.
Hahaha, what a damn load.
Ahh yes. Germans and looking away and denying the prevalence of racism. Name a more iconic duo.
I have many international friends in university and they never mentioned anything like this. Only that the Ausländerbehörde are a bunch of entitled Assholes. But I don’t live in Hamburg or Berlin, so I can’t comment on this, only that it’s sad that such things seem to still happen there
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