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some of us knew exactly what the last panel was about… 😆
I saw the same joke in Two and Half Men
That’s quite an indictment.
Hah I was thinking the same
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He’s going to unplug his life support
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Sorry for your loss
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It’s funny because the one character in the comic would better serve the world as a corpse
If you got the opportunity to literally remove the power cord plug for your loved one’s life support form the power outlet, I’d agree that something is a little messed up
Meanwhile, my wife has an AD and has repeatedly instructed me to shuffle that mortal coil on offa her, so this really isn’t super controversial
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Yeah but it would be a lot more fun if you got to do it yourself and say “yoink!”
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Where I’m from, the median house price has risen 600% relative to median income since the 70’s.
That means that we’re dropping more than the entire value of their home as our deposit, while we compete against capital-heavy boomers that benefited from that growth looking to downsize.
There’s a reason they could have a house and 12 kids on a single summer job income - they were handed a strong economy that they ransacked for their own benefit before blaming the poor schmucks that are inhereting the stripped wreckage they’ve left behind. Couple that with the cost of the massive environmental pivot we’ll need to make to survive as a species, and I’m sure you’ll forgive me for wanting to drive the nose of the next boomer that preaches about smashed avocado toast and bootstraps through the back of their skull.
I’m fascinated by how idioms have gone a complete 180. Now we tell people that they just need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, but that idiom is used to describe an impossible task. You can’t pull yourself up by your own bootstraps, it’s literally impossible. Same with it’s just a few bad apples to excuse bad behaviour. The idiom is a few bad apples ruins the barel, that one bad person or thing jeopardizes the whole thing. I don’t get it.
People are rather ignorant as a whole. Many of us here probably use our brains for genuine thought, but I find that to be the exception.
Look at the shit people focus on as important and how they mimic what they see and parrot what they hear and it becomes clear how they can’t even get simple sayings right.
Also I put my hand into a bag of apples last night and my finger dug into a rotten spot in one apple with mold in it. Thankfully it didn’t get a chance to spread… close one.
“A person is smart. People are dumb panicky dangerous animals and you know it.”
Mob mentality. :(
I’m solid GenX.
My grandparents bought a house on a corner lot in the northwest suburbs of Chicago for $6000. Which was about a years salary for Grampa, who worked as a welder. This was in the late 60s.
ETA: Their mortgage was around $50.00 a month.
I’m GenX as well and I will straight up admit that my wife and I got lucky, purchased a house in a “distressed” neighborhood in Portland because it was all we could afford, and now, 20 years later, the neighborhood is fully gentrifying and our house and property is worth way more than what we owe on it.
I’m conflicted as to how to feel about it. While on the one hand we very innocently bought the place because it was in a shitty neighborhood and was all we could afford, on the other hand I now know that we were what the urban studies people refer to as “bohemian colonizers,” meaning that without knowing it, we were, by moving into the neighborhood as poor artist types, part of a much longer process of gentrification.
Again, I am of several minds regarding how I feel about the whole thing.
be poor
move to a poor neighbourhood
I really don’t think that you should feel bad about this personally :)
Meh, gentrification is the result of bad policy, not personal, individual choices (except maybe for people flipping houses and landlords). Neighborhoods, and the people in them, should not stay poor forever. Rent controls, grants for people to start businesses or coops or whatever, allowing mixed-use zoning, and stuff like that can reduce the harmful affects of gentrification.
Pay it forward by voting on low cost housing initiatives and not becoming a nimby.
Yeah, I don’t think you should feel bad. You can’t really individually control processes like this and well… you needed a place to live.
You shouldn’t feel guilty for being lucky. Just pay it forward to your community if you can or care.
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I feel bad because I think the house I sold went to a landlord. At the time it didn’t really occur to me that a cash offer probably implied land lord. I put some blame on my real estate agent for pushing lower cash offers over higher loan offers but it still makes me upset. The HOA in that neighborhood only allower 10% of the homes to be rented out and when we moved in they had a ton of signs saying that. I assumed that would be the case when we were selling.
It was one of the nicest while still being affordable townhomes in the area.
It doesn’t keep my up at night or anything but at the same time it’s not like I’m going to be selling my current house soon. It’s an opportunity you only get so often.
What were you supposed to do live in a tiny apartment to make housing more available for the poor fuckers nearby who just happened to have started slightly closer?
Which would be round about $55000 in today’s money, for those interested.
It’s disgusting. And even more disgusting at America and Canada’s disregard for the unavailability of owned housing at an even remotely appropriate cost.
Today a the median yearly salary for a welder is a bit less than $40,000.
For this price you can maybe get a camper, not too big though.
So, welders today make about 30% less, while houses today cost about 5x as much.
Progress!!
This is actually worse than it sounds 1 year of salary can be paid off in 2.5 paying the same amount someone pays for rent on their apartment. In 2.5 years you wont pay much in the way of interest. Over a 30 year mortgage paying the median home price of 388k means paying almost 3x the face value or roughly 1.1M or roughly 17 years of median income.
I live in a small town in the SE US. I bought my house for $89,900, 12ish years ago. There are 3 vacant houses on my street and they are all listed for $250,00 or more. My house is bigger than all of them. They have all been empty for over a year.
They really should tax empty houses at 100%. You’ll see how fast they will sell, and how low the price will go to achieve that.
absolutely agree. It’s insane that we allow corporations to hoard housing and artificially jack up the price. I’m just outside the city limits and I see soooo many homeless people now. A lot of them have jobs too, they just can’t afford a place to live. Some local churches have opened up their parking lots for people to sleep in their cars.
Agreed, if no one is resident in the house then the taxes should go way up.
This way any house where the owner isn’t living there and it’s not rented would see the taxes increase quickly. We can even add a multiplier according to how many years the house has been sitting there empty.
In a way, some states do have this. Texas for example has the “homestead tax exemption” which puts a cap on the tax burden increases when prop evals 📈. This is only applicable to one home for the family and they must reside in it. You can’t claim this exemption if you are renting it out or have a summer home in this state.
This is what I understand anyways.
We do that in Vancouver and it’s good. The fines are steep.
But it’s opened a mini industry of people being paid to visit homes so they aren’t ‘empty’.
So it sounds like it helped the situation + created new jobs. Win-win
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Nice.
Maybe the landlords will get really clever and start paying homeless people to live in their units, so they can pay a rock bottom price to avoid the tax …/s
True, homestead exemptions can only do so much.
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I just bought a house in the eastern part of the Midwest in the US. The tax assessment in 2021 for the house was about 193k. In 2023, it’s 275k. That is a 30% increase in 2 years. During those 2 years, nobody lived in the house, and no improvements were made in that time. Neat! My mortgage is still about the same as my rent for a 2br apartment in Oregon earlier this year. I suspect the Midwest is about to start hating Oregonians as much as Oregonians hate Californians soon!
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I’m here to laugh. Not plot murder.
In this instance i kinda agree, but there’s a line that gets crossed where that doesn’t apply, so perhaps sturdier logic is needed.
EDIT: For instance, if this Ricky Gervais meme were posted to justify a joke making light of police brutality against black people, that’s clearly far over the line. This joke isn’t even close to the line IMO. But where is the line? And - genuinely, out of curiosity because dark humour is a deep love of mine - what is the correct line of reasoning? I really do think “just take a joke, it’s fun, have a laugh” like the meme implies is the correct stance in regards to things like this. But, since the logic doesn’t really hold up at the extreme, it to me implies the logic may be a little off.
Things are damaging or they’re not. The question of if someone is offended by it is a very seperate thing, and really just a personal choice.
That is a very privileged position to take. They aren’t separate issues at all; the fact of someone being offended is inextricably linked to the fact of it being damaging. And to consider it a choice is absurd even on the face of it. Being offended is an emotion. You can’t genuinely, fully control your emotions. You can control what you do about it, sure, but not always, and not completely.
And apart from that, even if we entertain the idea of it being a choice - who on Earth would choose to feel offended? It feels awful. And it never goes well. If you even have the guts to say something about it, you generally get mocked and laughed at. Who would choose to go through that?
It’s not privileged at all lol, you’re just wrong.
Someone can put their elbows on the table while eating and offend someone. That person is hurting no one. The fact that it offends someone doesn’t make it damaging. Stop acting like being offended in and of itself means anything. Either that or explain to me the real harm of it. Or any other stupid little thing that can offend someone, like taking the lords name in vain or wearing white after labor day to a party. These are BS nonsensical things that people get offended by and you’re trying to act like they cause real harm. Get out of here with that pure nonsense.
Who chooses to feel offended? No one, but you chose your world view and that dictates if you will be offended.
Bottom line, you said “the fact of someone being offended is inextricably linked to the fact of it being damaging”. Explain to me how putting your elbows on the table while eating is damaging. Who is it harming?
Nobody has the right to not be offended.
If we gave people that right, everything in civilization would grind to a halt.
Choosing whether or not to offend a small number of people for the sake of expressing something is an individual decision.
It’s not harming anyone, and that person is just being an asshole. They are linked, yes, but not always directly correlated. Some people just be crazy.
This whole time I’ve been talking about bigotry, and I’ve been consistent on that. These little kooky “Don’t put your elbows on the table” level stuff in my own opinion is not a genuine form of offence, it’s an enforcement of conformity and tradition. “Offending” tradition is its own can of worms. If you ask me, before we consider if offending a tradition is something actually bigoted and offensive, we must first consider if that tradition might actually be batshit insane.
They’re inextricably linked but not correlated, that makes no sense.
You said being offended causes harm, I said it doesn’t, there were no classifiers. Someone being offended by something stupid doesn’t make them any less offended, they still are. I would argue a lot of people who are offended are because they see some form of tradition or cultural norm they value being upset. Whether that norm is them wanting to be racist or wanting you to eat a certain way.
My point is, people can get offended by literally anything, and I’d say 9/10 times it’s not damaging and they’re just being professional victims. Yes there are racists and horrible people, and the things they do are damaging. That’s why I care, because it’s damaging, not because it offends someone.
While I understand your perspective, it’s worth noting that reactions to offenses, like many emotions, exist on a spectrum. Some individuals might experience deep hurt from a comment that others brush off with ease. While we can’t always control our immediate emotional responses, we can cultivate resilience and perspective over time. Claiming that no one would choose to be offended might oversimplify a complex web of human emotions and social dynamics. Some might lean into being offended as a defense mechanism or to further a personal or societal narrative. Emotions are complex, and so are the reasons behind them.
While I understand your perspective, it’s worth noting that reactions to offenses, like many emotions, exist on a spectrum. Some individuals might experience deep hurt from a comment that others brush off with ease.
I believe I addressed this. Of course that’s true. That’s why I said you can control your actions, “but not always, and not completely”.
While we can’t always control our immediate emotional responses, we can cultivate resilience and perspective over time.
We can, but certain things are bound to simply be offensive, no matter what. “Perspective” is a buzzword in this conversation. No amount of perspective will get me to react kindly to statements like “women belong in the kitchen”. The onus should not lie with the offended party to just not be offended, it should lie with people trying to not be offensive. I don’t think that’s too much to ask.
Claiming that no one would choose to be offended might oversimplify a complex web of human emotions and social dynamics.
No, it really doesn’t. Saying people choose their emotions is the oversimplification. Would you “choose” to be angry, sad or scared? No. You can only choose your actions. I think you’re conflating emotions with actions.
Some might lean into being offended as a defense mechanism
Being offended doesn’t protect you whatsoever. Again, maybe you’re conflating actions with emotions. But what actions are you talking about here?
or to further a personal or societal narrative.
This just seems like a dogwhistle to me. What narrative is furthered by feeling something?
Emotions are complex, and so are the reasons behind them.
Yes, which is why we should put in more effort than just saying “they’re doing it on purpose”, and justifying that with a truism. “It’s complex” is easy to say. Digging into that complexity is harder, and maybe that’s why you’re not doing so.
The onus should not lie with the offended party to just not be offended, it should lie with people trying to not be offensive.
Jesus, I didn’t really want to respond to you in another thread but this line I had to say something. Anyone can be offended by anything, so you’re saying everyone should go out of their way to not offend anyone? Ok I’m offended by your user name, change it. I’m offended by the way you speak, the onus is on you to change it. I mean a society with that mindset wouldn’t function, anything I didn’t like I would just say it offends me and demand you change. We need to follow laws, that’s why we have them, and we should strive to be good people, but suggesting that a person should try to conform to every little offense anyone could have is unreasonable, that’s a VERY slippery slope.
No amount of perspective will get me to react kindly to statements like “women belong in the kitchen”.
Unless you live in a world where that is normal for decades on end and it becomes your normal. Nazis never saw themselves burning people in ovens, it’s not a switch that happens over night. What can become your normal is very scary.
What narrative is furthered by feeling something?
For example saying that you are offended by pride flags because you are homophobic. Maybe you “feel” (general “you”, not you specifically) that gay people touch kids, many homophobic people do “feel” that. Feeling that way and expressing your offense to pride flags in that way very much is pushing a homophobic narrative that can be damaging to the gay community.
Being offended doesn’t protect you whatsoever
That’s not what defense mechanisms are in psychology. They are subconscious responses, usually to avoid anxiety or facing any cognitive dissonance. If you point out that they hate gay people but are best friends with a gay guy, they may get offended as a way to avoid confronting that cognitive dissonance.
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I mean the argument will always require context. You could stab Gervais in the leg and say “but I found it funny, I must be happier than you.”
There is a line and there isn’t. Some audiences are big, some a small, the same audience can like one thing and dislike another and there’s no way to tell, the exact same audience could like the opposite the next day.
In the end, we sometimes make work, and sometimes it’s good and sometimes, regardless of the quality, it is liked, and regardless of all, it is popular.
I’ve always considered “I find that offensive” to mean “I think what you said means you’re a dickhead and I want you to know that”. That’s why I’m offended by people who say “Hitler did nothing wrong” un-ironically but not offended by people who say “Hitler did nothing wrong” as a joke.
“I find that offensive” seems to be a bit of a straw SJW. I’m sure some exist that make things all about themselves like that, but if someone said “black people are lazy criminal scum”, I don’t think the response would be “I find that offensive”. I think the response would be “that’s racist garbage, get out of here. Black people are just people”. Point being, the response to an offensive statement generally consists of an argument explaining why it is harmful or factually incorrect.
Wow I really started something huh? lol
Haha yeah it sure seems that way
I think “the line” you’re talking about is all in the delivery of the joke. Poor delivery could make a relatively tame dark joke really bad, and great delivery could make a heinous joke the talk of the night.
I think you’re on to something, there.
Why not both?
I don’t get the last panel.
Unplugging them from life support is how I read it. I like the darkness.
He’s practicing pulling the plug on his dad
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I’m going to
buyinherit a house!Reverse mortgage says the bank will.
ROFL, get it now.
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It’s as vague as taking a sledgehammer to the head…
He’s practicing unplugging his father (grandfather?) for when he’s on life support. It’s a bit of dark humor.
Just like food, some people don’t get it.
Just like a house, some people don’t get it.
Fuck u lmao that was good.
Initial thought, “who doesn’t understand food?”. Then I was like, “oh shit that’s dark”. Made me genuinely laugh.
I have some Garfield comics I can send you. Might be more your speed.
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Did you just link an hour long video without any heads up whatsoever? Who’s just free to sink an hour into a random joke from a stranger on the internet on a whim?
Yep, you are pretty much obliged to watch all of it, including the ads and then both liking and subscribing. We will honour your brave sacrifice.
I just did. I am a diffrent man now.
I’m English so can’t comment on the situation in the US, but reading the comments in this thread it seems quite similar to the one here.
I bought a house in 2010, just before I turned 23 and I’m very much the exception to the rule. I live in an area with some of the lowest house prices in the country. I didn’t go to University and got my first full time job when I was 19. It didn’t pay well but I lived at home and I was a stoner. I didn’t go out much, just to friend’s houses to get high. My town is walkable enough that I didn’t need to drive (I get that not driving isn’t really possible in the US, or even in some parts of the UK).
This meant I saved up a lot of my money without really trying. The house I bought cost £41,000. I sold it in 2022 for £39,000 which should give you some idea of the state of it.
My Dad bought a house in 1986 for £12,000. I can see that house from the one I live in now, which cost me £79,000 in 2022.
That is some achievement to lose money on a house in that time period, did it fall down 😂
Nearly. It had awful damp, no central heating and an open coal cellar at the front.
And suddenly the story makes so much more sense 😄
Those house prices sounds absolutely insane to me.
I’m also in the UK, but I’m in the South East, so house prices are very high. Still managed to find a “cheap” house recently due to the location being a bit rough.
For comparison, my house that I’m buying is £345k (it’s 2 bedrooms with a separate garage and 2 bathrooms). I saved up a £125k deposit by living with my parents for the longest time (I think it took me about a decade). The exception being for 3 years when I house shared - the rent was £325 per month with bills included, but my room was effectively a glorified cupboard.
I will also say that I was saving lots and lots of money with my old job. I’m a software developer, so my salary was good (started off at £22.5k, went up to £45k with about 10 years experience and being a senior dev, then our company got bought out and my salary went up to £55k). A year later and I switched jobs as the annual salary increase was £150 (for the whole year). Ended up with a £75k salary w/ bonus, private healthcare, etc etc. I really lucked out at that moment.
As to why I didn’t buy a house earlier with my deposit, there was two reasons:
- I had saved up about £100k before for personal savings, then that money went to help a sibling (call this sibling A) with their property. My parents sold a property aborad to effectively give me back the money, but the money was split between me and another sibling’s bank account (call this sibling B) because of financial advice given by my uncle. What then happened was sibling B didn’t give me back the money and was being incredibly difficult about the money, and since they have a history of being difficult in general, I decided I was going to save that money instead.
- Sibling A wanted to start their own business, but it effectively flopped for all sorts of reasons. They had amassed a loan of £15k, and I helped pay that off. This was while sibling B was being incredibly difficult.
- Main reason: At the time, I didn’t know if I really wanted to stay at the job for so long, and if I did want to stay, I didn’t want to move into the area where my job was - despite the convenience, the area was incredibly rough - almost GTA like (and that is no exagerration). I didn’t know where I wanted to live, and the places I would be interested in, I effectively had no clue as I was living with my parents at the time.
So yeah, buying a house in the South of UK isn’t easy at all. It requires a ton of patience and luck.
Jesus, that’s insane.
My house has 2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom and no garage. It is, I’d say, in the second worst part of town but crime rates here are still fairly low. I paid over 4 times less for it than yours just 17 months ago.
TBF house prices here have increased since then and you’re looking at around £100k minimum for a place like this now, but still, that’s mental.
You bought a house for less than $45K? Excuse me?
For comparison, a 2 bedroom 1 bath house at about 1000 square ft in my area would cost 250K for a place that needs repair and remodeling.
For us using metric who are not used to freedom units:
1000 square ft = 93 m2 (92,9 m2 to be exact)
So I guess you can divide by 10 to get a rough estimate in m2 that is 7% off.
Thank you. I’m used to the freedom units.
Freedon units are absolutely awesome to confuse the enemy, problem is it confuses your friends too.😋
Fore 3 years ago we bought a house in a decent size city at £103K at 133m2 in Denmark, and the houses prices is still pretty much the same the prices have gone up £11k on our house but mostly because I have renovated over the time.
But here in Denmark if you buy a house you pretty much need to could renovate by our self, because the professional is extremely expensiv, if I needed to hire a professional to replace my roof it would cost us £100k and I can do it by my self for £10k.
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in Denmark
Yes I figured as much from the “for 3 years ago”, which is totally Danglish, “3 years ago” is enough.
Sorry, I just found it funny, that I figured a Dane wrote that from the first 3 words.😀
And yes professionals are really expensive, USD 100k to replace an entire roof doesn’t even sound expensive, if it includes materials, it’s sounds dirt cheap.
Edit I just checked prices, and apparently you can get a new roof for a 100m2 house approximately 1000 ft2, for about USD 10000.
Depends a lot on what type of roof you have. Comp shingle is pretty cheap.
In Denmark, the cost equivalent of a roof replacement is 100k UK pounds? That price in the US is so high it shocks the conscience unless you’re talking about a mansion or doing some special kind of roof material like slate and hiring only engineers with advanced degrees as laborers.
I think I specified USD = US dollar, but that is cheap, our neighbor got an offer of USD 160000 for a house of about 180m2. That was with ceramic tiles, but afaik it’s not that much cheaper even if you chose cheaper materials, I think the cheapest was about USD 120000.
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I have been misinformed, I looked up prices and you can get a new roof for a 100m2 house approximately 1000 ft2, for about USD 10000.
You’re out by a factor of 10 if you think a new roof is 100k
Yes, The offer my neighbor got must include rebuilding the construction or something.
You can get a new roof for a 100m2 house approximately 1000 ft2, for about USD 10000.
You can’t get a professional to replace your roof for 10k£
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1 Krone is $0.14 USD. Holy shit. $14k for a roof? I just got mine done for $6k by a pro here in the US - I thought about doing it myself but realized that I’m a father now, have zero safety equipment or roof replacing skills (lack of experience never usually stops me) and knees that now randomly dislocate for no reason, and I’d probably die. That said, it would still have cost me more than $1.5k in materials. How can folks afford such prices? How can the market sustain such prices?
Why assume krones when their other prices were pounds?
I didn’t know what the symbol for Krone is and incorrectly assumed they use the pound symbol (they don’t - Kr is the symbol). 100k pounds for a roof is absolutely insane, and now I absolutely need more explanation as to why.
It was all converted to pound for ease.
And why the prices fore a professional is so damn high in Denmark is becous the labor force is very well paid in these proffesions, so price is: 50-60% salary, 10-30% taxes, the rest is material.
And the symbol is “DKK” i don’t think there is symbol like $.
That almost exactly the size and price of the house we bought, and I live in th most affordable city in Canada. Also needs repair and remodeling.
I say this as an American, but I feel terribly at how Canada has treated its citizens in regards to housing.
Oh, Canada, I wish you were my home and adopted land. Don’t know where the most affordable city is (and I won’t ask you), but Jeff Jacques (questionablecontent comic) has me pretty interested in Halifax/Nova Scotia.
Wherever you are it is better than here. We are on the cusp of an economic crisis. Ironically its our massively over inflated houseing sector thats putting us under.
US housing is unaffordable as well, but we’ve got mass shootings, 25% of our voters are white evangelicals that believe the earth is 6,000 years old and that we don’t need to worry about the environment because the more fucked it is, the faster a vengeful Jesus will come and crush non-evangelicals like grapes till the blood runs thick in the streets. I’d take a convoy of idiot truckers playing American over what we’ve got going down here any day. (EDIT: sorry, 25% of the GOP voting base, which is still awful but not as awful as I previously stated)
No, I bought a house for £41k. Not sure of the currency exchange rate at the time and how that relates to now, but pretty sure it’s always going to be above $45k
Which city is it? I would very much like to move in. The housing market is so ridiculous now that even in my crappy city, in a terrible country that lost millions due to COVID, and is now at a goddamn war losing thousands of people by day, the prices are still skyrocketing. Currently, even the cheapest 12m² room inside an ex-USSR barrack costs like 20 grand, and the situation is even worse outside the cities.
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They’re so dense. My conservative uncle gave me a bunch of shit for taking out student loans. He worked at McDonald’s over the summers and paid his rent and tuition for the whole year! Meanwhile I was working full time year round going to school, barely making enough to pay rent without enough leftover to make a dent in tuition. Obviously that world doesn’t exist anymore. This was over 10 years ago, I’m sure it’s way worse now. At least I was able to find “affordable” rent.
Is he going to unplug his life support
Yep
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A four-panel comic called Pervis by Zach M. Stafford.
The first panel shows a young man in a brown button-down shirt and orange tie standing in a street with a house in the background. The young man is saying “I’m going to buy a house!”
The second panel shows a much older man, now bald but still wearing the brown shirt and orange tie, speaking to a man in a green button-down shirt and green tie. The elderly man is saying “…and that was how I bought a house when I was 23!”
The third panel shows a close-up of the older man’s face, he looks agitated, his eyes scrunched up and his mouth open wide as he yells “I worked at the drive-in all summer for that house!! Nobody wants to work anymore!”
The fourth panel shows the elderly man and the green-shirted man again, this time both are facing away from the viewer and the green-shirted man is holding the end of an electrical plug that he’s just pulled from the wall. The older man is saying “…why are you unplugging my lamp?” To which the green-shirted man responds, “I’m just practicing”
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Last month I had this random conversation with an old lady while on vacation. She mentioned that quite lightheartedly, that “we bought our house just on our salaries, we worked hard back then and needed to settle down”. I wasn’t expecting to have to explain to her that this is not such an easy option for us right now. She seemed genuinely surprised and disappointed at the facts and I didn’t know whether to feel enraged or amused by her true or not ignorance.
At least she was open to listening, hopefully you’ve made an impact on her going forward
home ownership has been stable around 65% since the 1960s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeownership_in_the_United_States
The homeownership rate in the United States is the percentage of homes that are owned by their occupants.
Yes, that’s what it means
I guess that is how he’ll a house, high risk, high reward. .
I think you a word there.
Wait until Zoomers and Millennials find out that the house grandpa bought was probably under 900 sq feet, didn’t have any AC, had one bathroom and if he was lucky had 2 bedrooms for the 2 adults and 3 kids. And when he furnished it, at most the family had one 13" B&W TV (if they were lucky), the tiniest fridge and the washing machine probably had a handle which you needed to crank by hand and the dryer was the clothesline out in the tiny backyard.
Every prospective homebuyer under 35 these days would turn their nose to a house that small and with such few amenities. And god forbid it actually needed some work done to it. With how mechanically inept (and lazy) younger folks seem to be these days, they aren’t even willing to look at cheap fixer-uppers to save money in exchange for sweat equity.
Hahaha, you’re hilariously out of touch.
Zoomers and Millennials would be lucky to find a small home for sale, as greedy real-estate and construction industries have pretty much decided that building starter homes isn’t profitable. My local 900 ft sq home costs just 20k less than a larger home, and they’re all over 300k
Kids? Who can afford kids? Zoomers and Millennials aren’t likely to be in the position to have multiple kids.
And its a lot easier to live without A/C pre-2000, you know, before people polluted the fuck out of everything we depend on to live
But go on claim a worldwide housing crisis is due to a generation of lazy people and definetly not due to giant investment industry that 's squatting on top of housing. Did you have to fight airBNB to get a bid in in your day, grandpa?
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Hahaha the participation award line! you are old!
You’re projecting grandpa. You were the participation award generation. You had it all handed to you and you preserved NONE of it for the next generation. And thats going to be the legacy of your generation.
Societies grow great when old men plant trees in whose shade they’ll never sit, not when you raze the forest to the ground for ‘as seen as TV’ garbage from China, you asshole.
I wish I was old, but good luck using that an an insult. Clowns like you think anyone old enough to drink is just a few short years away from needing a cane.
Come up with more excuses for all your generation’s failures. You’re going to need a whole hell of a lot of them because those failures keep on coming.
Don’t worry, when you come up with elders like yourself who start blaming the sins of the parents on the children by 5 years old (who really made participation awards happen? The kids or the parents?), you get pretty impervious to bullshit blame games.
I love the Gen X’rs who spout boomer “back in my day” lines with zero self-awareness that they’re in the same boat as the rest of us.
They forget that they were the OG slacker generation, but maybe if they shit on millennials and zoomers enough the boomers will finally let them drive lmao!
Ah yes the classic blaming the children for what their parents did re: participation awards. No wonder you’re so fucking stupid. I’m sure you had literally everything handed to you by your parents to have those views, because there’s literally no fucking chance that someone who is actually working from nothing could possibly think like that. I refuse to believe that level of stupidity exists.
And who were the ones giving out participation awards?
It certainly weren’t the Millenials nor Zoomers, we didn’t care about those things.
I would love to even find a house like that on the market.
I’ve heard that before, then you tell someone they might have to add 10 minutes to their commute, or you tell them the closest Starbucks is 15 minutes away, or Gb internet wasn’t offered, or some other lavish luxury that people are spoiled with these days wasn’t available, and all of a sudden it is a dealbreaker.
Used to be in the /realestate sub on Reddit and the number of spoiled buyers who would endlessly complain about not being able to find a house was infuriating. And when you’d point out to them that with their budget maybe since they were single and had no kids, they might not actually need a 3 bedroom house, they would get all snippy.
I can’t tell if you’re a troll or legitimately brain dead. So good job either way
All those things I would gladly give up if it meant I don’t have to burden my parents anymore.
I would buy that house in a heartbeat if I could afford it
You truly have no idea how zoning, home construction, or really anything works today and this very ignorance is informing your biases.
Man, I saw houses in Portland that were smaller than 900 sq ft, did not have central AC, no appliances, and had water damage and wires ripped from the walls above $200k. That’s not the case in all markets, but it is for a great many. Get on Zillow and start looking around as if you were in the market. Ask yourself if you’d be willing to offer some of these asking prices.
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