My dude what happened is imminently determinable. It’s recent fucking history. It’s safe to assume they fairly accurately recorded every part of Israel’s creation because to them it wasn’t seen as a bad thing to establish a western colonialist outpost in the middle east, and to use the Zionists and the Holocaust as the excuse to do it.
The people killed 1000 years ago were not Israelis. The people who killed them were not Palestinian. All of this history is irrelevant to conflating “The jews” with “Israel” which you shouldn’t do, and is the only problem I had with you bringing it up.
As far as the outcome I mostly agree. I don’t see this ending in a way were all three of Gaza, Israel, and Lebanon continue to exist simultaneously. My preference is that the colonist state gets abolished, but I have no delusions about the likelihood of that outcome. My “side” is against the people committing genocide. I have no special place in my heart for Gaza or Lebanon, or special hate in my heart for Israel. I have no real opinions about jewish people as a whole because it is stupid to treat an entire religion and ethnic group as a monolith.
My dude what happened is imminently determinable. It’s recent fucking history. It’s safe to assume they fairly accurately recorded every part of Israel’s creation because to them it wasn’t seen as a bad thing to establish a western colonialist outpost in the middle east, and to use the Zionists and the Holocaust as the excuse to do it.
The people killed 1000 years ago were not Israelis. The people who killed them were not Palestinian. All of this history is irrelevant to conflating “The jews” with “Israel” which you shouldn’t do, and is the only problem I had with you bringing it up.
As far as the outcome I mostly agree. I don’t see this ending in a way were all three of Gaza, Israel, and Lebanon continue to exist simultaneously. My preference is that the colonist state gets abolished, but I have no delusions about the likelihood of that outcome. My “side” is against the people committing genocide. I have no special place in my heart for Gaza or Lebanon, or special hate in my heart for Israel. I have no real opinions about jewish people as a whole because it is stupid to treat an entire religion and ethnic group as a monolith.