Democrats, including Kamala, have shown opposition to Israel’s genocide, while Republicans have not. Your argument doesn’t even seem to recognize that Republicans want to completely eliminate the Palestinians. If your argument was actually in the interest of the Palestinians it wouldn’t be for a course of action that will ensure their destruction.
Your argument’s subject moral reasoning will not end the genocide or ensure Palestinian statehood so it is not useful to the Palestinians or pro-Palestinian groups.
People act in their own self-interest. If the pro-Palestinian groups are going to use any political party it will be the Democratic Party because that is the option available to them. Grassroots movements can shift a political party on the political spectrum. It’s reasonable that pro-Palestinian groups will work to shift the Democratic Party to the left. This includes voting in US elections for Democrats, as Democrats shift to the right when they lose, historically speaking. As apposed to do nothing to impact US politics and let themselves be destroyed.
Words don’t stop genocides, actions do, and the Biden-Harris administration has made no actions to prove that they are any better than Republicans on this issue. Pro-Palestine groups have one job and it is to make sure Palestinians aren’t being oppressed and genocided. They are putting pressure on Democrats to stop the genocide, but their job is not complete until their demands are actually met. Negotiating for a kindof genocide is not what they exist for, and it makes their stance appear weak and easy to manipulate so they are not going to do it. If they convince the Democrats or whatever political party is in power to stop, they win. If they don’t, the protests create discourse and increased discontent among the community for the government as they go mask off with their fascism, which then puts more pressure on the government from the community to stop and the cycle repeats until somebody caves in.
In the face of a christo-fascist takeover your argument’s strategy of doing nothing because of moral reasons is useless.
the Biden-Harris administration has made no actions to prove that they are any better than Republicans on this issue.
See open letters cited in previous sources. Trump said Israel needs to complete their genocide. See previous sources.
There won’t be any Democratic Party to leverage once Republicans jail their political opponents and we are all in death camps.
We need to keep our democracy long enough to change our society for the better. This means voting is a mechanical choice each election cycle and that grassroots movements are used to get more progressive and socialist candidates into positions of power between elections. The calculus for pro-Palestinian groups is the same. Vote!
I’m talking about what the Pro-Palestine groups are doing, not what I’m doing, since you keep saying Pro-Palestine groups should promote Democratic candidates so I’m explaining why they aren’t doing that. Since you think you know how a pro-Palestine organization should be run, why don’t you go to a protest, find an organizer, and tell them your idea then let me know how that goes? I’m not in charge of those groups so if you’re going to argue about what candidates Pro-Palestine groups should support you’re wasting your energy on the wrong person.
My argument is that it is in the strategic interest of both pro-Palestinian groups and the Democratic Party to work together. My argument has refuted your argument by explaining how its strategy, of doing nothing, is not useful to either of these groups.
Now is the time for voting. Polls will close on November 5th. It is in the strategic interest of people on the left to vote.
By refuting your arguments other people will see that they are meritless and vote.
Democrats, including Kamala, have shown opposition to Israel’s genocide, while Republicans have not. Your argument doesn’t even seem to recognize that Republicans want to completely eliminate the Palestinians. If your argument was actually in the interest of the Palestinians it wouldn’t be for a course of action that will ensure their destruction.
Your argument’s subject moral reasoning will not end the genocide or ensure Palestinian statehood so it is not useful to the Palestinians or pro-Palestinian groups.
People act in their own self-interest. If the pro-Palestinian groups are going to use any political party it will be the Democratic Party because that is the option available to them. Grassroots movements can shift a political party on the political spectrum. It’s reasonable that pro-Palestinian groups will work to shift the Democratic Party to the left. This includes voting in US elections for Democrats, as Democrats shift to the right when they lose, historically speaking. As apposed to do nothing to impact US politics and let themselves be destroyed.
Words don’t stop genocides, actions do, and the Biden-Harris administration has made no actions to prove that they are any better than Republicans on this issue. Pro-Palestine groups have one job and it is to make sure Palestinians aren’t being oppressed and genocided. They are putting pressure on Democrats to stop the genocide, but their job is not complete until their demands are actually met. Negotiating for a kindof genocide is not what they exist for, and it makes their stance appear weak and easy to manipulate so they are not going to do it. If they convince the Democrats or whatever political party is in power to stop, they win. If they don’t, the protests create discourse and increased discontent among the community for the government as they go mask off with their fascism, which then puts more pressure on the government from the community to stop and the cycle repeats until somebody caves in.
In the face of a christo-fascist takeover your argument’s strategy of doing nothing because of moral reasons is useless.
See open letters cited in previous sources. Trump said Israel needs to complete their genocide. See previous sources.
There won’t be any Democratic Party to leverage once Republicans jail their political opponents and we are all in death camps.
We need to keep our democracy long enough to change our society for the better. This means voting is a mechanical choice each election cycle and that grassroots movements are used to get more progressive and socialist candidates into positions of power between elections. The calculus for pro-Palestinian groups is the same. Vote!
https://www.vote.org/
I’m talking about what the Pro-Palestine groups are doing, not what I’m doing, since you keep saying Pro-Palestine groups should promote Democratic candidates so I’m explaining why they aren’t doing that. Since you think you know how a pro-Palestine organization should be run, why don’t you go to a protest, find an organizer, and tell them your idea then let me know how that goes? I’m not in charge of those groups so if you’re going to argue about what candidates Pro-Palestine groups should support you’re wasting your energy on the wrong person.
My argument is that it is in the strategic interest of both pro-Palestinian groups and the Democratic Party to work together. My argument has refuted your argument by explaining how its strategy, of doing nothing, is not useful to either of these groups.
Now is the time for voting. Polls will close on November 5th. It is in the strategic interest of people on the left to vote.
By refuting your arguments other people will see that they are meritless and vote.
https://www.vote.org/