• Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    I know trans athletes excelling at their chosen sports is exceptionally rare, but is there already one website that has all the historical and updated statistics that so far show there’s no significant statistical trans advantage(transvantage!) that we can see from trans athletes going back decades?

    so every time someone says “sure but if you used to be a boy, then the muscle fibers-”

    and you can just be like “go to this site”.

    “here are the numbers”.

    when I looked up the numbers last year, I had to pop around to many different sites and read different articles, but I imagine somewhere someone must have already pulled all this together.

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        That’s what I’m looking for.

        when I looked before there was just a whole bunch of different websites and I had to find one athlete at a time or one statistic at a time, but there must be some website that has centralized those numbers somewhere.

        I was hoping someone here would know.

        maybe there isn’t one yet.

  • Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The way this is phrased seems to imply - at least to me - that the two statements are different. That’s what the “previously said” can be used to indicate. But saying it’s bad to ban trans people is the same is saying it’s bad to not let them play.

    I’d prefer it written as " Lesbian congresswoman Angie Craig, who is seeking her fourth term in Congress, has been consistent in saying that it is wrong to discriminate against trans women joining female teams.

     

    “No state should allow discrimination against LGBTQ+ foster children or adoptive parents who can provide a safe and loving home,” she said at the time.

    Yes.

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      Trans women do not have sporting advantage over cis women, so segregating them from cis women is appealing to bigots and people ignorant of the data at the cost of one of the most vulnerable communities in society.

      It is unacceptable.

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      Gender segregated sports are not the answer long term. Women’s teams are already treated like second class citizens even in sports where there is little biological advantage between the bimodal sex expressions of male and female.

      The best solution I have seen is treating sports like weight classes in boxing, based on whatever advantage criteria there is for that sport. This may still act as a gender segregator in practice, but it allows anyone to compete at the level they are able without questioning their gender identity or sex characteristics.

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            So I listened to the entire video. The person in the video could have started with a 3 minute outline because that was about all the meaningful content. That said, I did listen to the entire thing. And the kicker was right at the end. If there was someone who was genetically male, born male, and made the personal decision to present as female … and that person wanted to play high school basketball and was way better than all the girls, the person in the video would have them “move up” to the next level. The next level is the boys team. Which is exactly what I started with in my argument above. The only problem we come to is it is really hard to define who is the “best” at basketball and so it’ll always be a subjective opinion. This may be a problem if the person in question is way better than the girls but not very good compared to the members of the boys team. Why move up when you’ll only sit the bench? Better argue discrimination and a failure to accommodate. The problem isn’t solved at all.