• dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org
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    1 year ago

    “Sorry, this job doesn’t seem like a good fit or healthy working environment. Have a good rest of your day”

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    Step one: ask what the person’s use case is, then match it. It’s a standard interview trap to present this “sell this pen” thing as a test where the “potential customer” needs to prop up their window or poke a hole in a balloon or something stupid like that, just so they can turn down the people who hype up the writing capabilities. Always ask what they need first.

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    I got a sales job offer on the spot by first highlighting the limited use of a single pen and without extra’s on hand its negative business impacts. Then stated I had tons of pens available in my car and positioned selling them at least 100, but recommended they acquire 1000+ as this prevents potential issues plus gets them a better deal. Pretty solid approach in my experience.

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      Selling is an art… and this is why I’m not in sales. I have absolutely no interest in trying to convince somebody to buy something.

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        True sales is just filling a need, sometimes the customer knows they need it but others are unaware of it. Good sales reps will not sell something unless it makes sense for everyone involved.

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          Sales has fuck-all to do with filling a need. Sales is the invention of problems for which the only solution is the liberal application of money.

          Engineering is filling a need.

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            Oh ok- good luck getting your little field/product/item out into the world all on your own…

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              Well, you’re clearly not an engineer.

              Based on the way you’re attempting to “sell” the role of salesman, you don’t seem to have the skillset required for that role either.

              Aspiring mid-level manager, perhaps?

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                No shitstain- I’m a pilot and don’t have anything to do with either engineering or marketing. I also run my own company. I’m also extremely welltraveled, educated, and experienced. Which is why I know that very obviously an engineer on his own is worthless. Any company without marketing is worthless.any company with only marketing and no product is worthless. Grow the fuck up.

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                  Ok, Captain.

                  Just out of curiosity, where exactly did I say that salespeople aren’t important? I merely rejected the characterization that salespeople are problem solvers. They are not. Engineers solve the problem, salespeople convince customers that they have the problem.

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    “No, it’s mine, go and buy one by yourself”

    And now you’ve got a pen that you didn’t have at the start of the interview, and you’ve given capitalism a lesson of capitalism.