• wsweg@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Let’s say you need a plumber to come fix a leak. How does he get his tools and supplies there? On his mule and cart?

    For this example I’ll use the US average commute of 27.6 miles (44.4 km) one way. Based on what I looked up, a donkey pulling a cart is ~4.5 mp/h (7.2 km/h). That’s 12 hours of travel time there and back. Help me understand how this is reasonable.

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        1 year ago

        No, most traffic isn’t. A large portion of the population would be just as well off if they used public transport. However, there’s also a portion that the complete banning of road vehicles would be extremely detrimental to their livelihoods.

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      1 year ago

      Again, sufficiency and resilience. If you live in a rural space, you learn to fix shit yourself. Famously: tractors.

      If you believe that rural just means “own a house in a village or next to a town”, that’s not it, that’s tourism. That’s like owning a cabin in the woods or like the car-dependent suburbia. What makes you a rural dweller is participation in the rural economy or subsistence living. If you live like a guest, you are a guest.

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        1 year ago

        Based on your replies to my comments, I agree with you a lot. I haven’t been saying that we shouldn’t transition away from car-focused infrastructure and living. Rather, OP’s pipe-dream of banning cars and solving the infrastructure/living issue in 5 years is ridiculous.

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      1 year ago

      He loads up his hand cart with his tools, he walks 500m to the train station, he travels 43.4 km on the train, and then he walks 500m to my house.

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        1 year ago

        Where’s all this rail infrastructure coming from? If cars are banned it will take exponentially longer to complete. What does the population do in the meantime?

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          1 year ago

          I think 5 years is a reasonable span of time to transition out of cars if it’s our top priority and we put all our resources into a green new deal.

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          1 year ago

          That is a very vague term and I don’t think my job fits neatly into blue collar or white collar. If you’re asking whether I do hands on work at jobsites, the answer is yes.