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    57 minutes ago

    “every accusation a confession” is a common refrain to describe conservative behavior

    Point 1: You accuse people of avoiding questions (they didn’t), it’s because you avoid questions. The question you avoided

    I don’t see them arguing to remove all doners and thus win without them?

    The question you asked of them was how to win without donors. Not less donors.

    Would you like me to extend to you the courtesy you denied me when accusing me of building a strawman. That “without” is an extention of “fewer” the same way “most” is an extention of “more”. But that would take admitting they did, in fact, answer your question. Would you like to admit that? If so I’m good, that was all I wanted to highlight to you in the first place.

    Point 2: you accuse people of building strawmen, I didn’t, it’s because you build strawmen. See above.

    Regarding the pivot from “money” to “donors”: did democrats have less donors this election? Just as an aside, what is it that these donors donate, what is it that citizens united allowed these donors to donate, that isn’t money. Donors=money

    Ignore people all you want but they, and reality, are clearly telling you that optimising for donations/money doesn’t work.

    politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other. - Oscar Ameringer

    Democrats are too focused on the latter, because reasons explained to you, and thus lost due to the former.

    It seems our impasse is that’s I’ve understood, and stated as such, your argument to be “more money, more better” which is counterfactual to this election. You reply

    nuh uh, my argument is [defines “more” or uses the word “more”] [synonym for “money” or uses the word money], more better.

    I don’t think I can break through that level of double think.