The self-immolation, the most non-violent form of protest, no longer works. After Aaron Bushnell that I have heard about, there ware two more attempts that I didn’t. (Matt Nelson and Samuel Mena Jr)
Recent events have shown us that violent protest still works, but it got me thinking; When was the last time someone resigned from position of power due to social pressure?
I have this hunch that shame worked in the past, but now PR departments and relentless pursuit of money has removed social acceptance from an equation.
Al Franken comes to mind. Especially because he shouldn’t have resigned
Furthermore, a certain mediocre Democratic woman senator felt she needed a “me too” scalp to burnish her credentials for a run for president. As a result of her unwarranted sense of her usefulness, one of the best Senators in my lifetime says “fuck this noise” and resigned. While her useless self is still in the senate.
Franken could have come back but I think he resigned and has stayed gone because fuck that shit. If people want to be shitty and bay for blood like animals over stupid shit, then fuck all y’all. Can’t say I blame him. Plus nobody had the balls to stand with him while it was happening.
yup. its like the big ruckus is him pantomiming grabbing a sleeping female soldiers boobs at a distance using the visual illusion of the camera. I mean the guy was a comedian. This was a legitate joke thing and he was there to lift moral and entertain.
Making sexual jokes about a coworker without their consent is called sexual harassment. Especially if you photograph this joke so your coworker can be repeatedly humiliated as it’s passed around.
Good thing its not a co worker but I show. My work had a show with a comedian that made crass jokes. As for humiliation part of the joke was she was wearing a flak jacket. even if someone was grabbing someones chest with a flak jacket on neither one would feel anything either way. Its just convention at that point. Seriously go look up the pictures of the incident. It was stupid it was ever an issue. I did not hear anything about complaints from person in the picture. Since the election there have been things about problems with democrats and I would say this is a big one. Reactions more prudish than the most tight assed of religious folks but only if its a certain type of thing. If you had the same thing imply cupping some guys balls it would have resulted in nothing.
It was a coworker, she was another comedian on tour with him, not a soldier. If they had been working in an office he would have been fired immediately and she could have sued the company.
That makes it less not more of an issue. Comedian with a comedy picture. A comedian should certainly get this type of foolery and its benefit. I thought it was a soldier because of the flak jacket honestly but I guess all of them were given them just in case.
Humilating women isn’t funny. “It’s just a joke” isn’t an excuse for harassment.
Again if it was a guy and cupping the balls it would have never been a thing. Its not an excuse because they are a comedy troop. Look. We each have opinions on these and we each think each others is shit and we are not going to convince each other. If it was a bar conversation we would go talk with other people and that is what im going to do now. Im not going to convince you and you not me. We are of two different camps on this.
There’s another term called “having a stick up your ass” that’s coming to my mind now for some reason.
Because it’s what the bad guy in every sexual harassment training video says just before his female coworker reports him to HR?
No, because the woman in the Al Franken case was a fellow performer and comedian, and that’s part of their world. Recasting it as general sexual harassment as if we’re blind to all the circumstances is just torches and pitchforks. I agree with the other person here who believes Franken resigned because “Fuck this shit” and not because of being guilty of anything actually evil. And no, this opinion does not generalize to “every guy accused of sexual harassment” - see my first sentence and apply actual brain cells.
Also Anthony Weiner.