• dogsoahC@lemm.ee
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    7 hours ago

    This war has nothing to do with any people’s right to self determination. It is a clash between two imperialist powers. Russia’s actions are criminal and cruel and it needs to be stopped. The same goes for China and even more so the DPRK. But the fastest way to do so is to end the war asap. Just because one imperialism is less atrocious doesn’t mean it should be a permissible leftist policy to support imperialism. That’s what the socdems did in Europe in 1914, and it cost the working class a golden opportunity to revolt. In an imperialist war, the left should always want their own bourgeois state to lose, because it weakens it and makes it easier to topple. On neither side is it the ruling class that is suffering and dying - it’s working class people with their views clouded by nationalism, propaganda, and the promise of money or freedom from prison.

    What Karl Liebknecht said over 100 years ago has lost nothing of its truth - The main enemy is at home.

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      4 hours ago

      In an imperialist war, the left should always want their own bourgeois state to lose, because it weakens it and makes it easier to topple.

      Ah, so Poland should have craved defeat when invaded by Nazi Germany?

      That’s the true proletarian view, right?

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      6 hours ago

      So you support full scale mobilisation of NATO to match on Moscow right? That’d end the war right quick.

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        4 hours ago

        I know you’re trying to be sarcastic, but you’re actually just showing that you didn’t read my comment. I d o n o t s u p p o r t e i t h e r e m p i r e. Besides, when has a European force marching on Moscow ever ended in a quick victory for the European power?

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          4 hours ago

          I d o n o t s u p p o r t e i t h e r e m p i r e.

          Yet apparently, you only support resolutions which result in the Russian empire being allowed to continue its genocide unabated, I guess because Ukrainian lives are devalued by being part of the Western Empire or the Imperial Core™ or whatever the buzzword of the day is.