If it’s just human nature, then why do we need a militarized police force to enforce order? Having workers go to a workplace, do labor, and then send the profits to some far away entity that probably isn’t even there is actually very far from human nature. It’s something that necessarily requires the implied threat of violence to maintain. Same with tenants and landlords. No one would pay rent if it wasn’t for the police, who will use violence to throw you out otherwise.
It also frustrates me how that argument just waves away the incredibly complex and actually extremely arbitrary legal structure of capitalism. What about human nature contains limited liability for artificial legal entities controlled by shareholders? “Ah yes, here’s the part of the human genome that expresses preferred and common stock; here’s the part that contains the innate human desire for quarterly earnings calls.”
Its so dumb. “Human nature” according to who? Ignoring that appeal to nature is a logical fallacy its also just…fake. humans are social obligate primates. We naturally form small communal groups. We’ve interacted cooperatively and altruistically since before we were anatomical humans. If capitalism is human nature why did it take 19,700 years for anatomically modern humans to invent it. Because for one thing, commerce is not the same as capitalism. And even commerce is somewhat recent. Most of human history we didnt barter, pre-money barter economies are a myth. We had “gift economies” where we simply helped and gave each other what we needed. Without explicitly demanding a return but understanding others will help you out the same when you need it.
That’s exactly it, liberals don’t want us to question capitalism. In a discussion about socialism, some shitlib came by and asked what my job was. When I told them, they assumed I made a lot of money and said it was hypocritical for me to criticize capitalism. When I told them that I actually only earn $42k in a city with a living wage of $58k, suddenly I was just bitter and bitching about my low paying job, so I should get a good paying job.
Putting yourself and whoever you consider your tribe above others is human nature, so capitalism plays pretty well into that by rewarding fucking others over.
“Capitalism is just human nature.”
If it’s just human nature, then why do we need a militarized police force to enforce order? Having workers go to a workplace, do labor, and then send the profits to some far away entity that probably isn’t even there is actually very far from human nature. It’s something that necessarily requires the implied threat of violence to maintain. Same with tenants and landlords. No one would pay rent if it wasn’t for the police, who will use violence to throw you out otherwise.
It also frustrates me how that argument just waves away the incredibly complex and actually extremely arbitrary legal structure of capitalism. What about human nature contains limited liability for artificial legal entities controlled by shareholders? “Ah yes, here’s the part of the human genome that expresses preferred and common stock; here’s the part that contains the innate human desire for quarterly earnings calls.”
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Its so dumb. “Human nature” according to who? Ignoring that appeal to nature is a logical fallacy its also just…fake. humans are social obligate primates. We naturally form small communal groups. We’ve interacted cooperatively and altruistically since before we were anatomical humans. If capitalism is human nature why did it take 19,700 years for anatomically modern humans to invent it. Because for one thing, commerce is not the same as capitalism. And even commerce is somewhat recent. Most of human history we didnt barter, pre-money barter economies are a myth. We had “gift economies” where we simply helped and gave each other what we needed. Without explicitly demanding a return but understanding others will help you out the same when you need it.
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That’s exactly it, liberals don’t want us to question capitalism. In a discussion about socialism, some shitlib came by and asked what my job was. When I told them, they assumed I made a lot of money and said it was hypocritical for me to criticize capitalism. When I told them that I actually only earn $42k in a city with a living wage of $58k, suddenly I was just bitter and bitching about my low paying job, so I should get a good paying job.
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Putting yourself and whoever you consider your tribe above others is human nature, so capitalism plays pretty well into that by rewarding fucking others over.
Capitalism produces fragmentation and alienation that obstruct broader solidarity.