• ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml
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    13 hours ago

    All states oppress people, thats the point of a state. The goal of a socialist state is to oppress the bourgeois. While the workers of USSR and China did and do not have full control over means of production they had significantky more than we do

    • RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works
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      2 hours ago

      No, they did not. They had less. It turns out the totalitarian police state isn’t a freeing experience. The only people who controlled the means of production were the bosses of the factories and the state that set the production schedules. The workers had no involvement. It was just the state lying to workers.

      China has billionaires, an investor class and a stock market. There is no version of a modern Chinese state that hasn’t completely abandoned any attempt at socialism in anything other than name only. I have no idea why anyone who would claim to back any form of leftism would support China since they obviously abandoned leftist principles. You average Chinese worker has fewer rights than most.