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Interesting interview - it is incredibly spicy at points. Both of them lost their cool at several points here and I don’t think either of them come out sounding good.
For what it’s worth I think Hallam’s spiel about acting emotionally instead of using critical thinking sounds pretty suspect but clearly he’s found this an effective line to take when campaigning.
What’s with everyone saying, “you’re not posting in good faith” when they want to avoid explaining their comments?
Anyway, that’s cool, I just wanted to understand your reasoning a little more bit but if you don’t want to engage that’s also fine.
Have a good one 👍.