A few years ago, the Lemmy Developers decided to keep their political views on lemmygrad while keeping lemmy.ml more neutral. Now they are banning users who are critical of their actions and bigotry.
Anti-Tankie posts may put you at risk of being banned from commenting and posting on the lemmy.ml instance.
MeanwhileOnGrad exists to catalogue and document hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Extremism that glorifies violence and bigotry should always be condemned.
Nor do your arguments about making the fediverse a positive space even apply when the primary sources of such virulent hatred comes from self-defederated instances which do not interact with the rest of the fediverse.
Right, no one in that community ever goes over to those instances, glorifies violence and bigotry, and then screenshots the responses for content.
And they’d never scour for years old comments and splice them together to create an implied thread of conversation.
And of course that community would never ban someone for pointing out those kinds of bad faith tactics now would it?
I make sure never to take screenshots of new accounts to avoid just that. Even then, you must go through a vetting process to post on lemmygrad or hexbear, so your conspiracy doesn’t hold much water. Only spliced screenshots are removing off-topic or non-bigotted comments, I do that to make the screenshot look prettier instead of having blocks of hidden comments to get to the example comment–Likewise, I don’t screenshot negatively voted comments, which on Hexbear, isn’t even an option. If comments are asking for peace from the community, then I don’t touch that thread. Unfortunately, there are never any pacifist, non-extremist comments.
You were banned for defending the usage of Stalin emotes, which I warned you about and your response was to respond with a bad-faith comment where you compare Stalin to fucking Luffy from One Piece.
Do you want to be unbanned? You’ll have to follow the rules though, no defending Stalin or claiming that “it’s just jokes”
Your community definitely doesn’t follow the rules you present as enforced. It does seem the community relies on defederated instances to harass because every thread in a federated instance can be looked up. It routinely doesn’t stand up to scrutiny when it’s not a tailored screenshot.
Oh is that what you think was happening?
The person your community was calling for harassment against had made a Fred Armisen reference from Parks and Recreation with an emote of Stalin pointing and a One Piece emote.
Just because you banned me doesn’t mean I can see what you did with my posts. You edit and delete what you can to create false narratives.
MoG does follow the rules. Can you link any examples of it not following these rules? Otherwise, you’re simply lying.
You asked proof of Hexbear defending Stalin, I linked it, and you then disregarded it as them joking.
I did do exactly that: pointing out the examples. You then deleted and edited my posts and banned me.
You may not have realized it yet, but you run a hate community, which has no value or use to me.
If anything I would prefer you do a better job scrubbing the threads you’ve altered to remove my presence from that community. I want no association with harassing or doxxing people on Lemmy.
Your comments are still publically available, you do realise that, right? You did not list any examples, you instead defended Stalin and replied with “oh, they’re joking” to the bigotry coming out from Tankies.
Public usernames aren’t doxxing, dude.
Now do you want to be unbanned or not?
The deleting and editing of comments is the crucial part you’re ignoring. You shit the bed by doing that. I can’t take any community where you moderate seriously.
I deleted your comments because you were defending Stalin and handwaving bigotry
What’s the point of this cataloguing and documenting? All you’re doing is boosting bad posts and using them to paint entire communities with a broad stroke. If they’ve self-defederated, then maybe you should take that as a clue to leave them alone.
The point is to show that these instances are hateful bigots. You can’t even make the painting whole community argument when it’s federated anyway, if they weren’t all bigots, they would federate and encourage some diversity.
I trust you make the “leave them alone” argument over on their communities as well? Because I assure you that anti-tankie communities popped up in response to the harassment and hate-speech.
Instances may federate or defederate for a wide range of reasons. That they chose to defederate doesn’t automatically make them bigots. Why would I go to their communities just to get in an argument? I’m starting to think you went over there to start some shit and then you got mad because they bashed you for it. I’ve been told “just go over there and look at the horrors” only to go and not see the horrors that are claimed to be there. Cherry picking bad posts doesn’t prove anything as the vast majority of posts are not like that, and I know this because I’ve gone and checked multiple times now.
They chose to defederate because people kept dissenting against their abhorrent hate-speech.
No one is allowed in their community anyway, to post, you need to pass a vetting process.
That’s why this community and MeanwhileOnGrad exist, to highlight the extremism and bigotry. Nor is it cherry-picking when it’s posted by the admins and prominent users of the instance.