Bodies of Israeli residents and Palestinian militants lay outside of burned-out homes in the Israeli kibbutz Kfar Aza on Tuesday, days after Hamas launched a large-scale surprise assault on Israel, sending heavily armed fighters pouring across the border from Gaza and rampaging through rural communities.
So then you say “I condemn those who murdered the babies” not a version of “they had it coming”. Which is what you’re saying if you read this and post “I feel bad for the people who killed them”.
It’s the opposite of losing humanity when you can condemn murder. That is called accountability. When you excuse the murders that is victim blaming and shaming.
For someone who is arguing for both and, you have a hard time with nuance. It doesn’t help you see clearly. I would argue that it is your humanity that is lost - numbed. You’re afraid to feel the true pain of this and acknowledge who did it.
No one fucking said that. No one here is sympathizing with fucking Hamas despite your best efforts to conflate them with the Palestinian victims. The “innocents that are going to be slaughtered because of this” aren’t the people who killed them.
You are literally batshit insane. Look at any of my comments and I am saying don’t look at Hamas as Palestinian. So, I am not conflating them… what an idiot you are. Tone it down a notch.
Whoah now. I’m not the person you were talking to. I think an edit with some strikethroughs is in order.
You also advocated “why not both?” But I see what you’re saying.
Are you saying not to let terrorism dehumanize Jews?
Gotcha. My bad. I understand your frustration. The people pretending the Israeli victims deserved this are…well, I don’t even try to talk to them because I don’t think I can.
Why not condemn clear atrocities and show compassion for everyone that’s going to be a victim? Both sides only applies to raped, murdered or injured innocents - and there will be innocent victims on all sides.
Videos of dead kids on either side of the wall bring me to tears.
I appreciate the empathy you are showing and considering my perspective. I don’t quite understand the sentence about when you’re saying both sides applies…
My point is there is no both sides when you read this article. Hamas broke into Israel and raped and murdered unarmed people point blank (they didn’t bomb). And then they butchered babies. That should be unequivocally stated and Hamas condemned.
Hamas is like Al Qaeda, like the Taliban. They are religious extremist terrorist groups. Not freedom fighters. They should not be receiving sympathy. You should be consoling the victims of this crime only.
For example, in USA national news, someone recently kidnapped a little girl from a camping site. Then the police found the kid in the trailer (alive). The news article did not say what a hard life the kidnapper had before he took the kid. It focused on the victim and the victim’s family.
Right now, everyone is saying “poor both sides”. No - Hamas murdered babies and beheaded them. This thread is filled with people who refuse to focus on the victims - the Israeli children. As if they are subhuman. It’s so fucking disturbing.
Musings and thought experiments can come later.
I am only both sidesing human suffering. The Palestinians dying are victims of Hamas, too. I don’t think we should detract from the horrors Hamas has committed in Israel, but I’m also not going to judge someone for having sympathy for their Palestinian victims as well.
And it is insanely disgusting. As if calling Israel colonizers makes the rape and murder of children acceptable. Like I said, I won’t even try to talk to those people. I can’t handle it.