I’ve spent $75 for 3 years of gamepass. It has been hands down without argument the best value in gaming I’ve ever seen in a service. You are delusional.
MS probably doesn’t even make a profit with GamePass. They spend hundreds of millions to get Triple-A games on the service. GamePass is great for the consumer but in the end it will destroy the industry as we know it and give MS way too much power in the industry. People like to shit on Epic for their exclusivity deals, but MS is doing the same with GamePass. MS is trying to monopolize the customer base. And once they have achieved that they will not only raise their prices but lower the amount they will give to developers. And before you say MS doesn’t do exclusivity deals and you can still buy those games on Steam, many people will stop buying games if they can get them from a subscription service for cheap. Like the commenter above.
Phil Spencer confirmed it’s not making money in the FTC leaks. That’s why in MS’s financials they don’t disclose gamepass financials.
It actually staggers me how widespread the belief that MS won’t up prices is. I wonder if they thought the same about Netflix or cable TV subscriptions? Lol
And yeah, also in the FTC leaks MS stated they’d love to do a hostile takeover of Nintendo or Valve if they got the choice. I don’t know why people think Microsoft are on their side. They’re a 2.5 trillion dollar company with a history of anti-competitive behaviour lol
I dont think anyone doubts the prices will go up, but if it costs less than a AAA game every few months then people will pay it for the ability to play those games without a console or PC and to be able to play multiple games for the price of one
And again if that happens I’ll happily evaluate the value. For now I’ll choose to save thousands and use that money in the future for theoretical price hikes.
It won’t, it’s just slippery slope bullshit, but I’m ready with three money I saved.
Phil Spencer in the MS FTC leaks literally said that Gamepass isn’t making money. Now, personally, I’m of the belief that MS is a for-profit company rather than a charity, in which case they’ll up prices.
They have to up prices or shut down gamepass. That’s not my opinion, that’s capitalism. Microsoft will not keep gamepass if there’s no possibility of making money from it, and there isn’t at current pricing (source: Microsoft).
And save thousands? Thousands? You’d seriously be buying more than 33 AAA games each year for full retail price? Then never playing them again? Sounds like you’re exaggerating by a pretty large amount lol
Even so, MS is already dabbling with buying publishers and wielding them as a weapon through enforcing exclusivity. See buying Bethesda and destroying development of the PS5 port for Starfield. I think it’s naive to think this will get better and not worse.
I can still boot up games I’ve owned since the age of 5 or games on steam that lost their licensing like Prey (2006) or some Lego games, come back to me next month when you can’t play Persona 5 Royal as it’s getting pulled due to licensing. Time and time again, subscription models are great value until a point where the market share is big enough and the user base is invested enough that the price gets hiked. Just because it hasn’t happened yet doesn’t make me delusional, and frankly that was a pretty rude comment.
I, and the vast majority of the gaming community, will play a game once and never pick it up again. Most don’t even finish.
For the one of two games I might actually want to play again, I’m happy to toss an additional $10 at the 10 year discounted rate.
I’m still $55 ahead of you purchasing on release.
Same with gamefly. $15 a month and I’ve saved thousands and thousands of dollars renting for 2 weeks and sending it back.
Doing some napkin math:
I spend $210 annually on gamefly + gamepass. I have played no less than 30 games this year (it’s higher but I’m not keeping track). That’s $1800 USD I’ve saved. I’m more than happy to eat into that and purchase a game if need be.
Ownership of video games, is VASTLY over rated and valve has you by the genitals.
That’s a fair assesment. But what’s the ratio games that you actually go back to compared to the amount of games you own in total? Unless you only play very few games, the amount of games a person owns vastly outnumbers the games they actually go back and play multiple times.
Just looking at my steam library, I own hundreds of games I’ve completed once and have never touched again along with about 2 dozen I actually go back and play occasionally.
But you’re still playing all the games you had as a kid? 10 games a year adds up pretty fast when we’re talking about still wanting to play them all years later.
You’re right. It is really good value. For now. That’s how all of these subscription services start.
My netflix was once £6. Recently they’ve announced it’ll be going up to £18, despite it losing a bunch of shows and films that used to be on there.
Back a long time ago, my SkyTV package cost very little each month. Now some packages cost hundreds.
Adobe and others have done the same thing with their subscription services.
I don’t know why people are in denial that MS will do the same thing everyone else has done when Microsoft themselves said Gamepass isn’t profitable in the FTC leaks.
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I’ve spent $75 for 3 years of gamepass. It has been hands down without argument the best value in gaming I’ve ever seen in a service. You are delusional.
Almost like they price it cheap until they conquer the market, then jack up prices
MS probably doesn’t even make a profit with GamePass. They spend hundreds of millions to get Triple-A games on the service. GamePass is great for the consumer but in the end it will destroy the industry as we know it and give MS way too much power in the industry. People like to shit on Epic for their exclusivity deals, but MS is doing the same with GamePass. MS is trying to monopolize the customer base. And once they have achieved that they will not only raise their prices but lower the amount they will give to developers. And before you say MS doesn’t do exclusivity deals and you can still buy those games on Steam, many people will stop buying games if they can get them from a subscription service for cheap. Like the commenter above.
Phil Spencer confirmed it’s not making money in the FTC leaks. That’s why in MS’s financials they don’t disclose gamepass financials.
It actually staggers me how widespread the belief that MS won’t up prices is. I wonder if they thought the same about Netflix or cable TV subscriptions? Lol
And yeah, also in the FTC leaks MS stated they’d love to do a hostile takeover of Nintendo or Valve if they got the choice. I don’t know why people think Microsoft are on their side. They’re a 2.5 trillion dollar company with a history of anti-competitive behaviour lol
I dont think anyone doubts the prices will go up, but if it costs less than a AAA game every few months then people will pay it for the ability to play those games without a console or PC and to be able to play multiple games for the price of one
And again if that happens I’ll happily evaluate the value. For now I’ll choose to save thousands and use that money in the future for theoretical price hikes.
It won’t, it’s just slippery slope bullshit, but I’m ready with three money I saved.
You don’t think MS will up prices? Lol
Phil Spencer in the MS FTC leaks literally said that Gamepass isn’t making money. Now, personally, I’m of the belief that MS is a for-profit company rather than a charity, in which case they’ll up prices.
They have to up prices or shut down gamepass. That’s not my opinion, that’s capitalism. Microsoft will not keep gamepass if there’s no possibility of making money from it, and there isn’t at current pricing (source: Microsoft).
And save thousands? Thousands? You’d seriously be buying more than 33 AAA games each year for full retail price? Then never playing them again? Sounds like you’re exaggerating by a pretty large amount lol
Oh at least 30. I probably clear a game every 2-3 weeks. And even if they up prices
I’ll deal with prices as they come for now, I’m saving, yes thousands and playing more games than ever.
This only really works if they start making games exclusive to gamespass
I don’t think that necessarily has to be true.
Even so, MS is already dabbling with buying publishers and wielding them as a weapon through enforcing exclusivity. See buying Bethesda and destroying development of the PS5 port for Starfield. I think it’s naive to think this will get better and not worse.
And they will definitely not charge you more for it when they are a monopoly, no siree
Any day now valve, Sony, Nintendo, ea, Ubisoft will all fall!
Who says they’ll have to?
I can still boot up games I’ve owned since the age of 5 or games on steam that lost their licensing like Prey (2006) or some Lego games, come back to me next month when you can’t play Persona 5 Royal as it’s getting pulled due to licensing. Time and time again, subscription models are great value until a point where the market share is big enough and the user base is invested enough that the price gets hiked. Just because it hasn’t happened yet doesn’t make me delusional, and frankly that was a pretty rude comment.
I, and the vast majority of the gaming community, will play a game once and never pick it up again. Most don’t even finish.
For the one of two games I might actually want to play again, I’m happy to toss an additional $10 at the 10 year discounted rate.
I’m still $55 ahead of you purchasing on release.
Same with gamefly. $15 a month and I’ve saved thousands and thousands of dollars renting for 2 weeks and sending it back.
Doing some napkin math:
I spend $210 annually on gamefly + gamepass. I have played no less than 30 games this year (it’s higher but I’m not keeping track). That’s $1800 USD I’ve saved. I’m more than happy to eat into that and purchase a game if need be.
Ownership of video games, is VASTLY over rated and valve has you by the genitals.
I’m very skeptical that you’re describing the majority, let alone vast.
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That’s a fair assesment. But what’s the ratio games that you actually go back to compared to the amount of games you own in total? Unless you only play very few games, the amount of games a person owns vastly outnumbers the games they actually go back and play multiple times. Just looking at my steam library, I own hundreds of games I’ve completed once and have never touched again along with about 2 dozen I actually go back and play occasionally.
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But you’re still playing all the games you had as a kid? 10 games a year adds up pretty fast when we’re talking about still wanting to play them all years later.
https://deathisawhale.com/2021/01/20/how-many-players-actually-finish-games/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1875952118300181
I don’t think the “actually finish games” was the unlikely thing about what he said
game pass is a really good value if you ask me I don’t pay for it anymore but I have for a while
You’re right. It is really good value. For now. That’s how all of these subscription services start.
My netflix was once £6. Recently they’ve announced it’ll be going up to £18, despite it losing a bunch of shows and films that used to be on there.
Back a long time ago, my SkyTV package cost very little each month. Now some packages cost hundreds.
Adobe and others have done the same thing with their subscription services.
I don’t know why people are in denial that MS will do the same thing everyone else has done when Microsoft themselves said Gamepass isn’t profitable in the FTC leaks.
What a hot take! People want to hate the service on ideological platforms. They don’t want to see them math.