They are citing ONS figures of excess deaths as proof the vaccines are killing people. I tried to explain that not being able to get a doctor’s appointment, staying home and getting fat, etc explain the figures (official sources have said it too) but they said it’s “gaslighting” and then said their family doctor wouldn’t get the vaccine.
Not even gonna fact check myself I’m just gonna bet excess deaths fell off dramatically when the vaccine became widespread. Literally the opposite of what you’d expect if the vax was killing people.