On Wednesday evening, a rifle-toting gunman murdered 18 people and wounded at least 13 more in Lewiston, Maine, when he opened fire at two separate locationsā€”a bowling alley, followed by a bar. A manhunt is still underway for 40-year-old suspect Robert Card, a trained firearms instructor with the U.S. Army Reserve who, just this summer, spent two weeks in a mental hospital after reporting that he was hearing voices and threatening to shoot up a military base.

While the other late-night talk show hosts stuck to poking fun at new Speaker of the House Mike Johnson on Thursday night, Stephen Colbert took his rebuke of the Louisiana congressman to a whole other level.

ā€œNow, we know the arguments,ā€ Colbert said of the do-nothing response politicians generally have to tragedies such as this. ā€œSome people are going to say this is a mental health issue. Others are going to say itā€™s a gun issue. But thereā€™s no reason it canā€™t be both.ā€

  • ryathal@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    3
    Ā·
    1 year ago

    Involuntary commitment disqualifies a person from owning guns legally. Itā€™s essentially never happens though.

    • PeleSpirit@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      Ā·
      1 year ago

      I think he voluntarily checked himself in, thatā€™s what someone said last night. Iā€™m talking more about before they get a gun.

    • misanthropy@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      Ā·
      1 year ago

      Personally, this is one of the reasons I keep my mental illness to myself. I donā€™t want to hurt anyone but myself (and thatā€™s not all the time), but knowing I might lose the right forever makes me keep a lid on things, and honestly prevents me from reaching out for help when Iā€™m feeling particularly sour.

      Also, the paperwork you sign before your NICS background check asks if youā€™ve been committed, voluntary or involuntary.

      Also, involuntarily commiting definitely happens, but usually itā€™s after a failed suicide attempt, and just nets you a 20-25k bill (with insurance) and having no way of going back to work for three days costing you your job. Iā€™ve got two friends with that exact experience.

      • rchive@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        Ā·
        1 year ago

        And thatā€™s the other edge of the double edged sword. If you say, ā€œpeople with known mental health problems lose certain rights, even temporarily,ā€ some portion of people with those problems will just fight harder to keep them unknown, foregoing help in the process. Itā€™s just like how when certain places pass laws prohibiting having sex when you know you have an STD, some people just stop getting checked so they donā€™t ā€œknowā€ they have an STD.

        • ryathal@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          Ā·
          1 year ago

          Thereā€™s basically nothing temporary to government. You generally have to fight to undo anything, even if the laws says it should.

    • krolden@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      Ā·
      1 year ago

      And it bans them from owning gun virtually forever unless they can afford a good lawyer and all the legal fees youll need to do it.