Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders said Sunday he doesnāt know that a ceasefire is possible in the Israel-Hamas war with āan organization like Hamasā involved.
āI donāt know how you can have a ceasefire, (a) permanent ceasefire, with an organization like Hamas, which is dedicated to turmoil and chaos and destroying the state of Israel,ā Sanders told CNNās Dana Bash on āState of the Unionā Sunday.
This is pretty clear to me. this fallacy of saying ādestroying the state of Israelā, which is
As far as I know, this is not Israeli which get their water/food/electricity/movement/borders controlled, this is not Israeli under the bombs, this is not Israeli moving to the southā¦
So Bernieā¦ we canāt even talk kind of chessmaster rhetoric (āya know, he critics Israel behindā), this is pure cowardice if not dishonesty (by its affiliation)
*cause of course, Isreal is creating generation of - legit - haters
He kind of has a point. The idea that a permanent ceasefire with Hamas is impossible has some merit. The keyword here is permanent, that any ceasefire will eventually collapse and lead to this situation happening again. Then he clarifies what should be done instead.
I donāt agree with him on this point, donāt get me wrong, but the point seems to be that a return to pre-Oct 7 conditions wonāt do any favors for everybody. He says this too in the article:
Thatās a pretty agreeable position.
Again, you are ignoring the context. This is not Hamas - or whatever you call it today - a population is getting decimated on a faster pace right now! 7 Oct was tragic (still, not everything has been investigated yet and we know Israeliās trend to inflate shit) but it CANāT be drawn as a sacred milestone which could erase all the previous and atrocious forfeits, should I say ācrimesā, committed by Israel.
I mean he says the bombing needs to end and has voted as much in the Senateā¦ Heās definitely not claiming Israel is in any way innocent.
Weāre falling into the trap of āDo you condemn Hamasā here. Not any mention of Hamas needs to be accompanied by a condemnation of Israel, just as not every mention of Israel needs to come with a condemnation of Hamas.
Not at all, I see what you mean but no. The ārelationā is irrelevant here. Who has the power, the control and who is dying?
Thatās such a simplistic view though, how long would you ignore a country firing missiles at you and sneaking in to kill civilians? Israel spent staggering sums on defensive security rather than just carpet bombing and still they find ways to kill Israelies.
And they always will, the leader of Hamas went to Iran again the other day to talk about further support that Iran can give them - they already train Palestinian fighters, supply them with missiles, scuba suits, paragliders, and tunnel making equipment. This isnāt just a small city being bullied itās a proxy war, and yeah there are people in Palestine who donāt support Hamas but itās not just Israel thatās too blame for their bad experience - fundamentalist despots need them to be there suffering and dying so they can have a reason to keep attacking Israel, so they can hold Israel up as a bogeyman to cement their power at home.
This isnāt a simple situation, Israel canāt just stop fighting and tear down itās walls.
Anoooother inflate. talking about missile (which are guided and of higher destruction capacity) while the others use artisanal rocketry, shows a level of cowardice, jeezā¦ And if you are so fucked up that, a death, if arab should only interest their ethnic, be aware that Iran is persian and shite, not arab and sunnite likeā¦ ya know, Saudi Arabia, Liban or Jordania OR Egypt!
Just look a the fucking map. The reality Israel is theocratic state (pseudo democratic, Bibi refers often to the book), laws are based on Talmud and they cry to build their great Israel.