Former first lady and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the wreckage from another Trump presidency would be āalmost unimaginableā and likened the former president who beat her in the 2016 eleā¦
You want to fucking āboth sidesā this, really? If Biden and the US government were arming Hamas while they attacked Israeli citizens, I would be just as upset as would you. But here you are defending him while ten of thousands of Palestinians are dead or dying. Stop pretending like you care.
You understand Israel didnāt just do this out of the blue right? They are reacting to a 9/11 caliber event by groups that want to exterminate them. Iām not saying either side is right in their methods, Iām saying itās extremely complicated. Proxy war always is. They need to react enough to discourage Hamas or other Islamic groups from doing anything like this again, but their margins are extremely thin and itās arguable that they overreact. Again, Complicated.
I agree beginning of the comment, conflict is bad for both Palestinians and Israeli citizens. And it increasing bigotry towards Muslims and Jews worldwide.
I re-read the comment twice and I believe it fails when it gets into blaming the Palestinian people, like they chose to have no control of their food, water, borders, ports, electricity, or even their military.
Iām not sure where you are from. But in America, they teach us to blame voters whenever shit goes bad. But at the same time our divided media propagandizes us with narratives that always protect the most powerful. Israeli leadership is the most powerful in that region and this comment you linked unsurprisingly has no criticism for them? I am done blaming people, even if they believe the shit propaganda fed to them. Leaders are always to blame.
That region can never heal until itās rotten leadership is gone and thereās new leaders that actually want to build a peaceful future.
Again, itās complicated. Biden going on TV and blaming someone like his predecessor did is a terrible idea. Handling it through private channels is the way to go.
It anyway, the idea that there can be peace in the region at all is questionable. Separate groups of people all feel entitled to the land and the Israelis have already gone through the holocaust, and of those aligned with Hamas have their way theyād go through another. They arenāt going to let it go, and they arenāt going allow Hamas to try it again. There isnāt much more to say. The innocent people in Gaza and Israel suffer like regular citizens always do in war.
And when itās genocide vs genocide itās complicated
You want to fucking āboth sidesā this, really? If Biden and the US government were arming Hamas while they attacked Israeli citizens, I would be just as upset as would you. But here you are defending him while ten of thousands of Palestinians are dead or dying. Stop pretending like you care.
You understand Israel didnāt just do this out of the blue right? They are reacting to a 9/11 caliber event by groups that want to exterminate them. Iām not saying either side is right in their methods, Iām saying itās extremely complicated. Proxy war always is. They need to react enough to discourage Hamas or other Islamic groups from doing anything like this again, but their margins are extremely thin and itās arguable that they overreact. Again, Complicated.
Ignore my other comment and read this persons whose comment is fantastic
https://kbin.social/m/asklemmy@lemmy.world/t/618414/-/comment/3504087
I agree beginning of the comment, conflict is bad for both Palestinians and Israeli citizens. And it increasing bigotry towards Muslims and Jews worldwide.
I re-read the comment twice and I believe it fails when it gets into blaming the Palestinian people, like they chose to have no control of their food, water, borders, ports, electricity, or even their military.
Iām not sure where you are from. But in America, they teach us to blame voters whenever shit goes bad. But at the same time our divided media propagandizes us with narratives that always protect the most powerful. Israeli leadership is the most powerful in that region and this comment you linked unsurprisingly has no criticism for them? I am done blaming people, even if they believe the shit propaganda fed to them. Leaders are always to blame.
That region can never heal until itās rotten leadership is gone and thereās new leaders that actually want to build a peaceful future.
Again, itās complicated. Biden going on TV and blaming someone like his predecessor did is a terrible idea. Handling it through private channels is the way to go.
It anyway, the idea that there can be peace in the region at all is questionable. Separate groups of people all feel entitled to the land and the Israelis have already gone through the holocaust, and of those aligned with Hamas have their way theyād go through another. They arenāt going to let it go, and they arenāt going allow Hamas to try it again. There isnāt much more to say. The innocent people in Gaza and Israel suffer like regular citizens always do in war.