For context: One of the rules in that community is that you aren’t allowed to post anything related to suicide. In a mental health community.

  • DessertStorms@kbin.social
    273·
    11 months ago

    I agree, and while I’m not in a position to run a community myself, it would be really great to have spaces here like r/PsychotherapyLeftists and r/MutualSupport where there is a supportive community with an understanding of how oppression and the world becoming more dystopic every day impacts our mental health

    Meanwhile, and I hate to link to reddit (plus the site crashes every time I open it) but these resources might be helpful:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/PsychotherapyLeftists/comments/ix7zuh/how_do_i_find_a_leftist_therapist/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/MutualSupport/comments/bw6mcu/very_important_resources_and_information_for/

    • scarabic@lemmy.worldEnglish
      84·
      11 months ago

      Do you think that would actually improve anyone’s mental health? Seems like it would become an echo chamber of complaint where absolutely everything in the world, including running out of toilet paper, is a classist plot to take away your humanity.

      • DessertStorms@kbin.social
        8·
        11 months ago

        To add to the good point argv made, far too many therapists (and other healthcare professionals) on both sides of mainstream politics believe that it’s all down to personal responsibility and refuse to address the systemic issues we face for what they are - massively oppressive and entirely beyond our control.

        It’s unfortunately what you get when the medical institution is as bias and even bigoted as the rest of society. :/

        • Phoebe@feddit.de
          2·
          11 months ago

          This is so true.

          I had 2 therapies in my life but it never felt that helpfull. Yes, to give me a kind of stability and helped me to not felt into the dark. But i always felt under presure, when it comes to my asexuality (it’s just ‘trauma’). Or when i didn’t want to participate in ttrpg anymore cause the german geek community is sexist as fuq.

          I always felt that i would go crazy and that my fears are not real. That hurted so much and had delayed my “healing” unnecessary. Only when i found a partner to speak openly and when i connected to people dealing with the same stuff, i realized, that i wasn’t alone.

          I learned about adhd in women and how east germany had abused psychiatry (cause my stepdad was a refugee from there)… i’ve always believed in psychology, but right now my “believe” is shattered. How can people think, they know more than their patients? Know better how to treat them?

          I am glad there are people seeing the same issues. That there is a name to it. It makes me feel more empowered. Thank you.

          • DessertStorms@kbin.social
            3·
            11 months ago

            Fellow ace, and late diagnosed neurodivergent (autistic) woman here 👋
            Funny how in a comment about finding your people you find your people haha

            I’ve felt much of the same things you describe, never even got to the point where anyone recognised any trauma (and there is much), they just kept telling me it was my fault and to “just be normal”.

            I no longer seek therapy because I had so many bad experiences, and I actually need it, but the process of finding someone that really “gets it” is impossible for me right now.

            I think the best many of us can do is try to surround ourselves with likeminded people, who might not be trained, but can at least validate our feelings in that we aren’t “going crazy” - the world really is going to shit and there is exploitation and oppression everywhere, and our reaction is perfectly normal, and that if we do actually have a mental illness, are able to be supportive and loving and accepting of us, which is massively important in treating mental illness anyway (and what so so many people lack). And if not possible irl, then online is perfectly valid too.

            It isn’t just you.

            • Phoebe@feddit.de
              1·
              11 months ago

              What a beatiful, beatiful coincidence! Hello, fellow ace! 😊

              You are damn right! We need more diversity, more voices like ours. To shape the psychology-landscape and to help people find acceptance/validation. Most of all, we need to talk. Openly, kindly, caring.

              In my country, every group of people is gossip about each other. Stereotypes, prejudice… it was always frustrating dealing with that. Not other people are destroing our way of life, but we are. With the hate we uphold.

              The rising right wing movement is pretty scary. I am worried about the future of my country, the Internet itself. But the queer community will always find a way.

              • DessertStorms@kbin.social
                1·
                11 months ago

                It really is!

                And I completely agree, diversity is the most basic step we generally need to take in society to increase chances of equity and equality. In the disability world we say “nothing about us without us” and that should really apply to all marginalised groups!

                If it helps at all we have the same kind of gossip and bigotry here in the UK, it’s really frustrating because to many people it’s just like their every day chit chat, they don’t care who can hear them, and that applies both in areal life and online, just no consideration or understanding that maybe words (and actions that aren’t directly seen as harmful) can in fact cause harm.

                I also agree about the queer community, along with other marginalised groups, when we stick together we are more powerful, we can’t forget that!

                • Phoebe@feddit.de
                  1·
                  11 months ago

                  I agree with you 😊

                  Even tho i studied history, it took long to find topics like disability history, gender studies, science studies and… everything PoC are doing. Established Professionals downplayed all of these as not relevant. Not scientific enough. As a young professionell, you don’t want to ruin your reputation, so you don’t engage with that.

                  In my country you are told, not to drift away from society. Not to built up your own ‘reality’, cause you read… a feministic book.

                  These gashlight tactics had keep me from enganging with topics and communitys, which are interessting for me. I did not want to be outcasted. But now i feel more confidend.

                  I want to dive into the neurodiverse community, cause it is such a new perspective in dealing with ones own life. Much more empowering! Much more brave. Learning to live with stuff like high sensitivity, instead of forcing myself to overcome it. It’s changing how i fre myself.

                  And yeah: how people talk to each all over the world has changed. To devide us is an easy way to controll us. 10 years ago you couldn’t say that out loud (ya soundes paranoid) but since the facebook papers it has become more much more clearer. It’s a tool to undermine democraty. And a lot of people are stepping in that trap.

      • argv_minus_one@beehaw.org
        7·
        11 months ago

        The right wing’s entire ideology is “fuck you, I don’t care whether you live or die”, and they’re firmly in favor of the various forms of oppression that drive people to suicide in the first place, so yeah, taking mental health advice from a rightist isn’t the best idea.

        • Phoebe@feddit.de
          2·
          11 months ago

          Yes i know. My gouverment doesn’t feel responsibility for a group called ‘Heilpraktiker’, who tell you that stones can heal depression and that cancer is manifestated hearth break…

          I just learned about all of that a few month ago and still feeling… shocked

          • 0xDEADBEEF@discuss.tchncs.de
            2·
            11 months ago

            They actually do. “Heilpraktiker” (for reasons there is no perfect translation. Think non-doctors practicing alternative-medicine being endorsed in part by the german and as far as I know austrian government in those respective countries) are more or less supported by laws not banning them and actually granting them privileges. So no one can say that the german and austrian governments don’t care about “Heilpraktiker”. Some parts of them actively push this.

            • Phoebe@feddit.de
              4·
              11 months ago

              I want to strech out, what “Heilpraktiker” are. Not for you but cause i want to express how much i dislike them.

              The Training programm doesn’t have much regulation. It’s just an exam and some courses to take. During this time you are told to “become creative” with the diagnosis. Only then you can see the biger picture.

              Right now they are in the spotlight cause if “false memory” tactics. They tell new trainees, that they had expierence child abused (when they have not) and by that making them question their own reality. They made them leave their family, isolate them and make them depent to them.

              And germans are like “but they seem more nicer than actual doctors so they have a Daseinsberechtigung” *screams into void"

        • HaphazardFinesse@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          11 months ago

          It’s honestly infuriating to realize half of the people running the country rely on the moral principles of ancient religious texts, translated multiple times, to make policy decisions, while also taking every opportunity to bash the scientific process. Not sure which ones are more frightening, the ones who actually believe what they’re say, or those who don’t.