The last time this happened, voters didnā€™t credit Bill Clinton. That may be a bad omen, or a good one.

If the stock market chose presidents, Joe Biden would be a shoo-in for reelection in 2024. The market rallied this month amid growing optimism about the economy, with the S&P 500 zooming 1.9 percent Tuesday on news that the consumer price index rose only 3.2 percent in October (compared to 3.7 percent in September). Stocks rallied again Wednesday on news that the producer price index fell 0.5 percent. Commentators are no longer debating whether the economy will experience a ā€œsoft landingā€ (i.e., a reduction in inflation without recession). The only question now is when it will arrive. The S&P 500 seems to have decided itā€™s already here.

But the stock market doesnā€™t choose presidents. Voters do, and polls continue to show they think the economy is in terrible shape. A Financial Timesā€“Michigan Ross Nationwide Survey conducted November 2ā€“7 is absolutely brutal on this point.

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    11 months ago

    ā€œEcon 101ā€ is an oversimplification and doesnā€™t explain how the economy works practically. People donā€™t put off purchases because their money is supposedly worth 2% more after a year. Similarly, people donā€™t spend just because their money is supposedly worth 2% less after a year. According to you, people would only buy when there is a sale, unless itā€™s an essential good, but it doesnā€™t work out that way. Tell me how well the car and housing markets are going under inflation.

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      11 months ago

      Yes, the ā€œEcon 101ā€ example is an oversimplification, itā€™s why itā€™s the ā€œEcon 101ā€ example.

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        11 months ago

        Yes, which is why it doesnā€™t apply to real life. Itā€™s an oversimplification.

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          11 months ago

          If you donā€™t understand the point of an oversimplified educational example, Iā€™m afraid I cannot help you.

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            If you donā€™t understand how an oversimplified example doesnā€™t apply in real life, Iā€™m afraid I cannot help you.

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            If you went through economy classes and didnā€™t realize our fractional reserve system is built on a house of cards and misguided principles there is no point where you would actually understand the concepts we are talking about here. People still have wants and needs. People buy housing whether rates are good or bad, because they need a place to sleep. Yes investment property purchases will drop, but thatā€™s not the average american, nor is the average american realistically investing in the stock market beyond regular 401ks because we deregulated bank investments and you can no longer get a savings account for retirement saving. Stop measuring economy health based on manufactured data points like the stock market and you might actually understand how people function in an economy.