It is not important that you can “turn it off”, it is important that it is installed. Off doesn’t mean not running in the background, sucking up your personal information.
and critically, most people won’t even know/bother is there.
or draining your battery.
We desperately need a phone OS the user can modify at will, by design and not by rooting, and on mainstream hardware.
I know, the argument goes that the only reason phones are so reasonably priced is the upside of upsell for manufacturers. But phones are not “reasonably priced,” they are sold at a large profit and the upsell is just greed.
Ubuntu Touch exists and I have it installed on my backup Fairphone 5. In terms of the OS itself, it seems pretty solid and performs well. However it is very spartan in terms of both the interface itself as well as the apps available to interact with the OS in various ways.
It’s a very small team working on it and as far as I can tell they aren’t exactly drowning in funding. I bet if every person that would like to see another OS option donated a cup of coffee amount of money to them every month they would probably have what they want in the next 3-5 years.
I don’t see that happening though.
I think mostYou think most? But that’s a great suggestion, I’ll check out their funding page.
Lol, sorry, I re-wrote my final sentence, and didn’t delete how I started it originally 😅.
It won’t happen carriers won’t allow it.
they can have the slim modem, they shouldn’t get to know anything about the other parts of the OS
Well, in some countries carriers don’t have a say in that.
We need more Linux phones
We need to just start beating the shit out of marketing people. Just any time you meet someone and find out they’re involved in advertising, punch them in the mouth. Doesn’t matter if they’ve personally done anything to you. They’ve gone too far.
Excommunicado
there’s a quiz show on TV in my country. a few days ago they chose some marketing manager. they have dropped out at like the 3rd question, winning nothing. this is rare. Normally I’m cheering for players but I was gleeful for his loss.
Yeah, fuck that guy.
Looks at brother
don’t forget, any time you meet him
Not to my phone they aren’t, get fucked.
Oh, fuck off Nothing, you were to be my next phone! Now I need to find a different European brand which does high-end smartphones. Which means only HMD remains unless something changed in the last few months.
Fair phone 6 running /e/OS is honestly amazing
Completely degoogled ROM, using MicroG to emulate google play services
European Fairphone would never do this, I think. Or just install custom ROM
shift.eco
chuckles in GrapheneOS
You know the project will soon be dead after gpixels will lock their bootloaders? Just the way oneplus did, reel people and then enshittify
They announced that they’re working with an OEM to support new non-pixel phones (perhaps even shipped with GOS).
The Pixel 9 series will be supported for another 6 years, and GOS support for the Pixel 10 is probably coming after Google releases QPR1 source. Hopefully there will be viable replacements by then.
Google is obviously going to keep making this more difficult but the rest of the world isn’t going to just sit still.
I mean they have and well continue to do so. The majority of people don’t care. Other manufactures removed unlocking and people don’t care.
The majority of people will trail behind by 5-10 years, same as always. As long as a small minority at the cutting edge continue to use and develop better things, everyone will have access to them eventually.
They’re making their own phone now. It’s not going to die, at least not in that way.
That’s not what’s happening. GOS has said they are partnering with an OEM, which means a yet-to-be-named manufacturer will ship their devices with GOS preinstalled.
But GOS has said things like this before with no outcome. So we will see what happens.
Look at what happens to Cyanogen when they did their own phone. Doing their own hardware doesn’t mean they well survive.
Perhaps, but they can’t lock the bootloader on my Pixel 9 that’s not running Google’s version of Android.
You do realize you can unlock the bootloader of pretty much every OnePlus device right?
Not anymore for the new ones, they stopped
That’s not true tho? The OnePlus 13(current latest phone) has tons of custom ROM support and can be easily unlocked. Have you looked at xda at all to check your claims?
Https
Dude that’s china only and is the standard there. OnePlus phones are just oppo phones with a different coat of paint and this is what oppo phones are
i heard OP for the newer ones, im on the 12r right now.
Aaaaand there’s the enshittification, just like I expected.
Remember kids - 99% of the time, if it’s too good to be true…
Hell, even when it’s not too good to be true and you already feel ripped off! The audacity of these mfs!
Dystopia
That’s what happens when an advertising company sells phones
Please stop copying Microsoft.
There used to be Amazon versions of phones doing this like 10 years ago. They were a like 10-20% cheaper and with a lil Android knowledge you could permanently disable them over ADB and have a cheap usable phone
Motorola G4 comes to mind. Great little devices.
The Samsung A series phone we recently bought in India had lock screen ads. I was gobsmacked. It wasn’t even easy to disable it.
Finally! Heil Satan!!
Not to mine they ain’t. Even if there was no device left without, because then I wouldn’t have one.
