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      Edit: before anyone goes and reads all of this, I’ll sum it up:

      This is a textbook argument from anecdote. They presented their anecdotal evidence and conclusion implying that because they’ve done 10k miles, it follows that Autopilot accidents shouldn’t be this big of a deal (blown out of proportion). A scalding hot garbage take. I got a little emotionally off topic with cause of deaths in a fallacious appeal to emotion.

      Ah yes, “I’ve personally done this and I’m the most important, therefore it’s not true. It’s the experts and engineers who are wrong.”

      Besides “everybody look at me!!”, what is your point?

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          And you say that based on personal anecdotes, rather than education and design/testing/systems implementation experience.

          Do you think 10k miles (unknown time frame, but my point stands even at one year) is a singular meaningful data point for the thousands (millions now?) of Autopilot enabled Teslas?

          What is the right proportion for it to be blown up to your loved one was killed?

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              If it was an “experiment” I would know about it because it would be driving erratically and attempting to kill me but instead it is “pretty good”.

              Mate, that’s not an experiment lifecycle works at all. The ignorance on display here is palpable.

              I would be very upset that there was such an irresponsible driver behind the wheel for sure. That’s not Tesla’s fault. You can’t blame Tesla because they added safety features to the car…

              How convenient, you avoided answering my question at all! And rather blame the poor implementation of an inaccurate technology, disguised as a safety feature (that has directly caused 17 fatalities, mind you), you blame the user (victim). Actually, I’d make the argument this isn’t a “safety feature” at all, more of a convenience feature, but I digress.

              Also there are dozens of other cars with this same technology on the road but everyone wants to pick on Tesla because it makes headlines.

              I’ll gladly shit on all the other manufacturers implementing this technology. It’s all garbage if it poses a threat to a human life.

              All of this is out of scope as my point is your anecdotal experience is not significant and dismissing results due to your own biases is quite ignorant.

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                  Agreed.

                  eye roll I’m so ignorant. My CompE Master’s and my previous work in vision-based AI collision detection systems has left me woefully unprepared to have educated and qualified experience for this exact topic.

                  Why do you hate children?

                  I never mentioned children, don’t put words in my mouth. Keep deflecting.

                  :citation needed:

                  Here you go: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/06/10/tesla-autopilot-crashes-elon-musk/

                  Nifty: https://www.tesladeaths.com/

                  It protects human life.

                  I’m sure the 17+ dead human lives really appreciate this “protection”.

                  Maybe “results” wasn’t the right word. Dismissing the findings of engineers close to the technology might fit better, but I’m definitely calling the number of fatalities and accidents caused by Autopilot as results of Autopilot and therefore Tesla.

                  It is not my intention to attempt to change your mind on this technology though, I’m just pointing out your anecdotal experience is not significant and dismissing the findings of engineers close to the technology due to your own biases is incredibly ignorant. This mindset is harmful whether you accept that or not.

                  Best of luck and good day.