• psycho_driver@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The James Webb telescope is already pulling in a lot of data that is contrary to the BBT. A lot of science is 1 part logic, 2 parts personal religion though, so it will be a while before it’s abandoned for the next big thing.

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      1 year ago

      From what I’ve been reading, it’s not contrary to the theory, it just seems to be pushing back the overall age of universe. And I’ve already seen two theories emerge from the new data – one that shows how our estimates of the age of galaxies based on the speed of light may be underestimated, and the second with math that actually corrects some of the other issues scientists have had. Curiously both of these new models push the universe to being almost twice as old, at around 22 billion years instead of 13.

      So yeah, the universe may be older than anticipated, but I certainly haven’t seen anything that outright contradicts the big bang theory.

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        I feel that it is important for science communicators to acknowledge that the “22 billion years” is just an idea being thrown around, not an established scientific fact overturning all our previous 13.8GY calculations. It’s based on images from JWST that are slightly “redder” than we expected, but they are so dim we don’t even have a full spectrum for them yet. It would be pretty hard to reconcile 22GY with the Lambda-CDM model which does use very precise measurements and calculations on the Cosmic Microwave Background. It would be a big deal if all those calculations turned out to be off all by the same amount. There are alternative (equally-speculative) ideas being floated to explain the red images, such as “dark matter stars”.

        I fear that when gnostics see headlines like that, all they see is confirmation of their belief that scientists don’t know what they are talking about. “Last year they told us universe was 13 billion years old, now they tell us it’s 22! If the number can change so wildly, there is no reason for us to think that the current number is accurate either, so we can safely ignore it.” Or: “Twenty years ago they told us we are entering an ice age, now they tell us we are getting global warming. They can’t get their story straight, for all we know next year they will start talking about “global freezing”, so we can safely ignore all their warnings.”

        Now, science is a process of incremental improvement, where an idea can be overturned if proven to be wrong. There is always an ongoing search to find alternative better explanations - this is good! But these popular science headlines too easily sensationalize these fringe efforts and make it sound as if they have already overtaken the mainstream. And the constant deluge of such headlines has made a large segment of the population turn away from science entirely, potentially causing harm to us all. IMO in reality there hasn’t actually been a big paradigm shift since the 1920s. It’s important to communicate that!