Israelis aren’t going anywhere
It doesn’t matter how much you hate them. It really doesn’t matter.
I repeat again. They are millions of Israelis. They aren’t going anywhere.
I’m stunned when people say “Israel doesn’t exist” or “Soon, Israel will be destroyed”
This is a childish level of denial.
Palestinians aren’t going anywhere
It doesn’t matter how much you hate them. It doesn’t matter. They are millions of Palestinians. And they aren’t going anywhere.
I’m stunned when people say “Palestine isn’t actually real” or “They are a fake people”
Absolutely childish level of denial
Pro-Israeli fanatics are actually encouraging the Israelis to believe this non-sense that Palestinians will be crushed.
The same way, Pro-Palestine fanatics actually encourage Palestinians to believe that Israel will be destroyed with more efforts.
This is just non-sense.
1. Israelis aren’t going anywhere. Whether you like it or not..
2. Palestinians aren’t going anywhere. Whether you like it or not.
Two very simple truths. Yet some people are in denial about that.
Tom Clancy figured it out decades ago.
The real disputed territory is Jerusalem, the holy city of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam.
In one of his books, a smart but common man basically got absolute power and used it for good — the real fantasy of the series (Jack Ryan, a name you may know from the Amazon streaming series).
So he divided Jerusalem into three districts, one for each of the Abrahamic religions, and had neutral guards from Switzerland keep the peace. With that temple Christ used as open territory anyone could visit but no nation could claim.
The book was light on what actually happened with Israel and Palestine, but basically with Jerusalem solved, they all basically fell in line.
Probably wouldn’t work IRL though.
I don’t believe most people are advocating for the forced removal of jews from palestine when they say Israel does not exist or that Israel will be destroyed soon. I certainly am not. When I say this sort of thing I mean that Israel is an illegitimate state that is pushing itself closer and closer to collapse as it makes enemies of most the world. I think most jewish settlers will leave before or after Israel ceases to exist because their position of privilege as a settler will cease to exist. Many if not most of them have duel citizenship and could leave easily if they wanted to. The dedicated religious jews will stay because the land actually means something to them but this is a small minority. Look at south africa for instance. There was a massive flight of settlers when apartheid fell. Israel apartheid will fall as well because apartheid is not a sustainable system. I am advocating for peace when I say this because the greatest obstacle to peace is the Israeli state.
Zionists are advicating for the removal of non-Jewish people, ethnic cleansing.
Palestinians are fighting for their right to return to their homes, their right to self determination, their right to live in peace.
These positions are not the same. People arguing for the end of the settler colonial practices of the State of Israel, are not arguing for ethnic cleansing.
There are approx 10mil Israeli Citizens, this is the population of a single well organised city. Estimated 10% have dual passports. Almost half of which are USAmerican another notable settler colonial society.
this is a weird thing to post if you ask me.
Genocide is evil, but it’s not “non-sense” - it has been done before. But true, the people who say the kinds of things you quoted aren’t interested in peace.
