I feel like it’d work better if you’d ask them “should men be treated like how you want to treat women: without a right to decide whether to have a child, without being able to work, without being … etc.”.
I feel like most men don’t really understand, unless if they were put in our shoes. I’ve seen shows where that exactly happens: they get whistled at by even stronger people, they’re derided and told their views don’t matter, they get lower wages (in simulations), and so on. Some do change their mind after that, at least.
A large part of the issue is the framing the right wing uses. The right wing will say something like, “well, if you want equal rights, you’d be egalitarian, not a feminist.” And then point to the most extreme examples of feminism like, I dunno, a woman killing a bunch of people and claiming to be a feminist? as what all feminists stand for, and only use uncharitable examples. And if a viewer doesn’t have enough feminine friends to vouch, it seems to them like the issues either don’t exist or are exaggerated.
If they want to play the normalizing the extreme game, for every example they can come up with for feminism I can come up with a dozen for Christians, the manosphere, male celebrities, etc. without even straining myself.
I feel like it’d work better if you’d ask them “should men be treated like how you want to treat women: without a right to decide whether to have a child, without being able to work, without being … etc.”.
I feel like most men don’t really understand, unless if they were put in our shoes. I’ve seen shows where that exactly happens: they get whistled at by even stronger people, they’re derided and told their views don’t matter, they get lower wages (in simulations), and so on. Some do change their mind after that, at least.
A large part of the issue is the framing the right wing uses. The right wing will say something like, “well, if you want equal rights, you’d be egalitarian, not a feminist.” And then point to the most extreme examples of feminism like, I dunno, a woman killing a bunch of people and claiming to be a feminist? as what all feminists stand for, and only use uncharitable examples. And if a viewer doesn’t have enough feminine friends to vouch, it seems to them like the issues either don’t exist or are exaggerated.
If they want to play the normalizing the extreme game, for every example they can come up with for feminism I can come up with a dozen for Christians, the manosphere, male celebrities, etc. without even straining myself.