And the biggest issue for me is the compensation and management side of things. I have no idea how to get hired as a manager because I spent all of my interviews in the past as a software engineer. And my software engineer skills have basically disappeared over the last 4+ years of managing.
Honestly, you should just apply for the position and see if you get through the interview (you don’t need to quit your current job before accepting interviews). A few of my friends at work basically went from software developers into management. A lot of places actually look for ex-devs for their management because the experience carries over.
I’m in a similar position right now where the dev team I’m working in is making me absolutely miserable, and I just brushed-up the resume and started looking for another job.
It may be that I’ve been dealing with this toxicity on and off for 8 years now and in my head everyone else is just as bad. All my exit strategies I come up with involve leaving the industry or going it alone.
I second the “just apply for management jobs”. I’d kill for quality devs who are interested in management. It’s easier to teach a dev business than to teach an MBA how to code.
While it’s not a one way street, it’s easier to get devs in the sweet spot than the other way around. The sweet spot being that confluence of business and tech.
See you already received some great advice. Agree, just brush up the resume and start applying. Tech is tough now, but should be temprorary, and anyway just start applying and see how they respond to your current or higher salary demend.
One important thing: from management and upwards, it’s always very political, this will not be radically different in any organization - if you want this path, you have to learn to navigate it. And if you e.g. start your own firm with 2 people, than you will have to deal with politics on your client’s side, with your publisher, industry regulator, etc.
I understand that when in a situation, it’s hard to realize, but you’re not in a terrible position based on the things you mentioned, and you can earn great money with the experience you already have at your current and other firms. If you think about switching, than just shop around with your CV, and see what is out there - it could easily happen that other places can offer the same money for less stress, or maybe after seeing how everyone would pay you 20% less. You will never know until you look around.
Honestly, you should just apply for the position and see if you get through the interview (you don’t need to quit your current job before accepting interviews). A few of my friends at work basically went from software developers into management. A lot of places actually look for ex-devs for their management because the experience carries over.
I’m in a similar position right now where the dev team I’m working in is making me absolutely miserable, and I just brushed-up the resume and started looking for another job.
Hope you pull through! Toxic teams really suck!
Thanks! Good luck to you as well.
It may be that I’ve been dealing with this toxicity on and off for 8 years now and in my head everyone else is just as bad. All my exit strategies I come up with involve leaving the industry or going it alone.
I second the “just apply for management jobs”. I’d kill for quality devs who are interested in management. It’s easier to teach a dev business than to teach an MBA how to code.
While it’s not a one way street, it’s easier to get devs in the sweet spot than the other way around. The sweet spot being that confluence of business and tech.
See you already received some great advice. Agree, just brush up the resume and start applying. Tech is tough now, but should be temprorary, and anyway just start applying and see how they respond to your current or higher salary demend.
One important thing: from management and upwards, it’s always very political, this will not be radically different in any organization - if you want this path, you have to learn to navigate it. And if you e.g. start your own firm with 2 people, than you will have to deal with politics on your client’s side, with your publisher, industry regulator, etc.
I understand that when in a situation, it’s hard to realize, but you’re not in a terrible position based on the things you mentioned, and you can earn great money with the experience you already have at your current and other firms. If you think about switching, than just shop around with your CV, and see what is out there - it could easily happen that other places can offer the same money for less stress, or maybe after seeing how everyone would pay you 20% less. You will never know until you look around.