Hey ya’ll, it’s stoned posting pt3, may day edition. I’m taking tomorrow off and so naturally I smoked a j in celebration. I’m also taking a detour from my place on tng to watch bar association!

  • hallettj@leminal.space
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    I had a workplace organizing training session the other day, and learned a couple of things. I’m not sure I have all this correct, but from what I recall US laws are strict in what kind of organizing is allowed - I think cross-industry unions aren’t allowed. Contractors aren’t eligible to unionize. (That’s on top of the “wage theft” effect of classifying full time employees as contractors instead of W-2 employees.) Organizing protections for workers don’t extend to managers. It’s a lot of bullshit.

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      What do you mean by strict? In my experience (US) We have a lot of flexibility in what we’re allowed to do. There are limitations, and yes they are bullshit, but I wouldn’t describe them as strict.

      What do you mean by cross industry union? Several unions, my own included, represents a broad cross section of the working class. A lot of the unions that make up a company, department, or workplace are made up all positions

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        Ok, I don’t really know what I’m talking about. I think the deal is that there is a concept of a “bargaining unit”, and the government usually limits bargaining units to one workplace, or maybe one employer. And employers can’t be compelled to negotiate with a group that is not a single bargaining unit. So in practice organizing has to be done workplace by workplace. Unless I’ve misunderstood.

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          Oh I see. What that means when it comes to the bargaining unit is that the company can’t negotiate a separate contract with the same employees that circumvent the union. This is a good thing imo, it keeps us unified.

          Union structure is much more complex than that. A bargaining unit is a single contract and that bargaining unit is a union, but if these individual unions gain enough power, they can come together and force companies within an industry to negotiate a standard contract. That’s what happens with the wga. It’s the long term goal that every organizer should strive for imo