For those that don’t know, Hexbear has been back on lemmy for a few months now and can therefore federate with all of Lemmy again.

For those who don’t know Hexbear, they’re an instance based around left unity and more shitposty than us but you know, I still like to browse there because they’re very, very active and funny.

Hexbear will federate by the end of the month with Lemmygrad, which means you’ll be able to visit and interact with them from the “All” tab, and they can do likewise.

We expect that federation will be going smoothly and our two cultures won’t clash too much, but we also expect some friction at least in the beginning.

As a reminder, we apply Lemmygrad rules on Lemmygrad, and Hexbear will, I imagine, apply their rules on their instance. Likewise we won’t be moderating stuff that happens on Hexbear if it only concerns Hexbear. If it involves a Lemmygradian we might moderate (see PS below for more info on how that works).

For Hexbearians that visit Lemmygrad (I assume they’ll make the same post on their end so I won’t explain how Hexbear works), we’re principally Marxist-Leninist but allow non-marxists piecemeal as long as liberalism doesn’t come out of their mouths. It’s all by the principle of good faith; we do talk to people if they come here in good faith, which I have no doubt will be the case from Hexbear.

With that said we’ll also be more lenient towards Hexbear since with them, we form essentially the only left presence on Lemmy and we like them very much. We also urge everyone to be lenient with Hexbearians even if they’re not marxists.

Anyway, while Hexbear is more left unity, in all my time browsing there I’ve never really had to ask “is this person a marxist?” so their system seems to work well. However, I also expect that since their registrations are open, we might see wreckers and infiltrators make hexbear accounts to troll Lemmygrad. Likewise on their end, it’s possible someone requests an account on Lemmygrad to try and troll them. In which case we’ll deal with the offender on an individual basis.

If you have any questions about federation with Hexbear ask them below.

PS: the way comment/post reports work is that if you report a comment on Hexbear with your Lemmygrad account, we’ll see it. So please only report stuff you see on Hexbear if it’s something we should actually take a look at, or it’s something that breaks Hexbear’s rules cause your reports help them too.

      • Faresh@lemmy.mlEnglish
        5·
        1 year ago

        I don’t see lemmy.ml in the list, but I hope that some day they do federate with it, because I really feel like the culture on lemmy.ml has negatively changed since the time I originally joined (especially with the reddit influx).

      • Bilb!@lem.monsterEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        I can appreciate the phased in approach. I just selfishly wish the hexbear users mixed in with the orthodox liberals doing all the worldnews and politics posting ever since the huge influx of users from reddit.

        • redtea@lemmygrad.ml
          7·
          1 year ago

          This kind of happened before on Reddit. CTH, FC, and GZD both got huge. But then Reddit shut them down, protecting liberal sensibilities from facts and truths they couldn’t handle. It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out without a single corporation in control.

          • Lenins2ndCat@lemmygrad.ml
            8·
            1 year ago

            I think it will be possible for pressure groups to mislead instance owners that have less time to be fully informed, lower standards for evidence and an itchier admin-finger into defederating by presenting “evidence” in a very /r/subredditdrama way to create the largest outrage possible and weaponise userbases of an instance into getting their instance admins to defederate.

            This will be a considerable problem and will test the admins of Hexbear on their diplomacy and networking skills. I’ve made it quite clear that Hexbear admins should be participating in as many backroom development groups as possible and actively helping other instance owners. This act alone creates a lot of goodwill that will make those owners much more willing to hear Hexbear admins in their own words before drama baiters.

            • redtea@lemmygrad.ml
              3·
              1 year ago

              Great points. There’s something about this in the Lemmy docs:

              Another way to censor is through social pressure on admins. This can range from spamming reports for unwanted content, to public posts from influential community members demanding to take certain content down. Such pressure can keep mounting for days or weeks, making it seem like everyone supports these demands. But in fact it is often nothing more than a vocal minority. It is the task of admins to gauge the true opinion of their community. Community members should also push back if a minority tries to impose its views on everyone else.

              https://join-lemmy.org/docs/users/05-censorship-resistance.html

              Maybe we’ve seen the start of this already with the scaremongering on .world.

          • bobs_guns@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            if it gets too hot to handle they can always be defederated. no true liberals are in danger of learning the truth here.

        • IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml
          4·
          1 year ago

          I can only speak for what I’ve read, but the vibe over there seems to be part “whatev I don’t really care either way” and part “I cannot wait to bully redditors with a home turf advantage”.

          Me personally, i had assumed for some reason that we were only federating with lemmygrad, so I read the above comment aboit federating with other instances with a huge fucking grin on my face, I feel like a demon someone is about to foolishly unleash from a gemstone.