• irmoz@reddthat.com
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    Keep reaching for further and further strawmen

    Itā€™s not a strawman. You think a minimum age is ā€œpointlessā€ because ā€œno one would actually vote for a childā€. I transplanted that exact argument into a situation I knew would showcase its absurdity.

    Proving you wrong isnā€™t a fallacy!

    Democracy requires majorities of people to do anything.

    Majorities can be misled. Surely youā€™re aware of this?

    A few people voting for nonsense options doesnt do anything.

    Itā€™s not ā€œa few peopleā€ though. Trump is actively and increasingly popular despite his obvious crimes.

    A few people murdering actually kills people.

    A bloc of fanatics actually gets their way when organised. Thatā€™s democracy.

    If youre worried a majority of people will choose a nonsense option, well then you dont believe in democracy anymore.

    Now thatā€™s a fallacy - A false dichotomy, AKA a black and white fallacy.

    According to you, there are only two options:

    1. I believe people only ever vote rationally.

    2. I donā€™t believe in democracy.

    This is absurd.

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      10 months ago

      Majorities can be misled.

      Trump is actively and increasingly popular

      A bloc of fanatics actually gets their way when organised. Thatā€™s democracy.

      You dont believe in democracy. Democracy is people collectively deciding, and you dont like what people are collectively deciding.

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        10 months ago

        You sure changed your tune quick! What happened to this not being likely? What happened to it being pointless to block voting for criminals because they simply wouldnā€™t be that silly?

        I believe in democracy. But I also believe in education - and you guys over there in the US arenā€™t good at either of those things. You have a corrupt, shambolic democracy and a failing education system that churns out dumb, blind followers to feed it.

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            10 months ago

            Sounds to me like you are the one who doesnā€™t believe in democracyā€¦ because thatā€™s not my take.