In a country with some of the world’s most expensive real estate, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government wants housing to become more affordable.

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    How about non-market housing supply, like the spacious comfortable middle class condos that Scandinavian countries provide? Vienna is also a model for government owned housing.

    How about co-op housing supply, for people who want to live in communities and not live in an investment?

    How about we free up zoning like they do in Japan, where you can buy a spacious new detached SFH in the middle of Tokyo for a fraction of the price of Toronto?

    Do you know why the last housing bubble popped in Canada? Because we had a massive oversupply of condos and homes relative to demand. Being against supply is absolutely delusional.

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      How about non-market housing supply, like the spacious comfortable middle class condos that Scandinavian countries provide? Vienna is also a model for government owned housing.

      Because in America that usually becomes a “place to put the poors” and becomes a place you can’t go to unless you’re one of them. Cabrini Green in Chicago started out as a wonderful thing to get people off the street and turned into a hell hole. It was also a great location that was rightfully torn down and became luxury condos. That is what America is.

      How about co-op housing supply, for people who want to live in communities and not live in an investment?

      Now you’re talking, I’ll add that to the list of awesome ideas.

      How about we free up zoning like they do in Japan, where you can buy a spacious new detached SFH in the middle of Tokyo for a fraction of the price of Toronto?

      Because zoning is there for a reason and that is a developer’s dream request. They would put high rises filled with luxury condos next to your garage if they could. See Houston.

      Do you know why the last housing bubble popped in Canada? Because we had a massive oversupply of condos and homes relative to demand. Being against supply is absolutely delusional.

      That’s not the reason, lol. You might want to do some research on that.

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        It’s because public housing in the US is a ghetto to segregate poor people and undesirables. On the Scandinavian model, non-market and market housing are mixed together. Rich and poor live next to each other. These are highly successful.

        Are you a NIMBY? Our zoning is horrible. It is mathematically impossible to reach our climate goals if we maintain the terrible zoning laws that we have.

        You also totally misunderstand why we build tall expensive towers. It’s BECAUSE we don’t allow middle density in SFH areas. Please read about the “missing middle”. Both tall towers and SFH are symptoms of the same disease.

        You might want to actually read about the last housing bubble. When the bubble finally burst, people couldn’t sell their homes and vacancies were high. That’s also why the government stopped building non-market housing. They thought we had built too much. 

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          It’s BECAUSE we don’t allow middle density in SFH areas. Please read about the “missing middle”. Both tall towers and SFH are symptoms of the same disease.

          That’s absolutely not true, see the following neighborhoods: Fremont, Queen Anne, University, Capitol Hill, West Seattle, etc.

          You’re obviously not reading anything I’m saying and promoting the buzzwords of the developer community so this is my last response to you.

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            If you think all the tenets of good urbanism from the academic and progressive community are just “buzzwords of the developer community”, then you are in the grips of an ideological NIMBYism.

            Low supply is an empirical fact. Vacancies are low throughout the country, and we have less housing per capita than almost all of our peers. Views like yours do not take the lack of housing seriously enough.