• abraxas@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        Yeah, but a lot of dumb people who could have supported BLM were swayed by Blue Lives Matter or All Lives Matter bullshit, especially if they work in or around emergency. There’s a lot of non-conservatives in emergency fields that are especially succeptable to that kind of bullshit despite being otherwise good human beings.

        I’ve talked at least two away from the “Blue/All Lives Matter” ledge. You have to do it delicately, but the whole problem with all this shit is that there ARE people who are not really racist who can be convinced that “there’s a lot of cops dying in BLM riots” because that’s what they’re being told. When you have black friends who says “I don’t want to be anywhere near BLM because they just make us look bad”, you know that people are spreading some real fake shit. But instead of hating on them, you can just show them that BLM is not riots and Blue Lives Matter is not about stopping cops from being killed.

        And then, the ones who aren’t racist… they do listen.

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        1 year ago

        This is my favorite argument to tell blue lives matter people. Along with my original point

        I’ve even gotten a few of them to truly understand that it is inherently racist by design by using these two arguments specifically

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          Sorry, can you clarify what the argument is? I read the comment you replied to and it didn’t seem like an argument so much as a fact check, which while powerful requires something kind of different. Am I missing something?

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            That “Blue Lives Matter” wasn’t ever about caring about police lives, only a counter to Black Lives Matter. Black Lives Matter was formed because innocent black people kept being killed. Blue Lives Matter was formed because being challenged with that fact offended them.

            When a police officer shoots a black man because he’s intimidated by his skin color, the defense “his life matters, too” is bullshit. Since Blue Lives Matter didn’t actually have anything to do with violence against police officers, it’s bullshit.

            Ironically, I would say Blue Lives Matter caused people to target police officers, who really hadn’t been targeted before. One could argue it is more accurate that Blue Lives Matter caused more unjustified police incidents against black people, which caused more misguided vigilante-style violence against police.

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          Maybe someone who is armed and breaking into your grandmother’s home? Maybe crowd control for a municipal parade?

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            1 year ago

            Maybe. Except they don’t show up until well after an incident, so I definitely don’t rely on them for my grandmothers safety.

            Now a parade! Now we’re talking. If I had to stand around during a municipal parade I would definitely act like I have the most dangerous job. T hank the Lord for the boys in blue being there for parades!

  • Gnubyte@lemdit.com
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    1 year ago

    Idk man.

    I’ve been privileged enough to live in mostly good neighborhoods throughout my life and especially in smaller towns those police do good, often difficult work. Bringing home some town drunk who’s acting difficult with access to a gun for example without it becoming an escalated scene IMO is a feat I could not do.

    I just wish that in the more dangerous areas and areas where we are having trouble with police brutality for example, we could have offers to police with good standing to be relocated and compensated to help move out the bad police.

    So for example if we’re having issues with police brutality in Portland OR, fire those police, then pay to relocate police with high standing clean records from diverse areas to move to these areas.

    The things I see in California sometimes I’m not sure that there’s an amount of money you could pay me to deal with half these things.

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    1 year ago

    I thought the most dangerous one was president, at an 18% fatality rate (8 out of 45 so far)