Cats are obligate carnivores in nature because of taurine, cat food doesn’t have taurine because the ingredients are shit so synthetic taurine is added to meet the cat’s nutritional needs.
The same synthetic taurine is also added to plant based cat food so it meets the cat’s nutriotional needs.
Dogs are omnivores like us and can easily thrive on a plant based diet.
Yes let’s involve morality, needless killing of animals is immoral.
Excess is the evil here, not the ACT of consuming an animal. There are plenty of ways of giving animals excellent, pleasant lives and then ending these lives in a way that produces no fear, no trauma in them. Or even awareness of the fact.
No it’s the act that’s wrong, needlessly killing other beings when we don’t have to is clearly evil.
There is no way to ethically kill someone who doesn’t need or want to die.
You wouldn’t accept these condition for “human farms”.
We are all just life. Life starts, requires fuel, and then ends. Sometimes life kills other life in order to get the fuel, and that’s fine.
Cats are obligate carnivores in nature because of taurine
From the wiki:
Specifically, cats have high protein requirements and their metabolisms appear unable to synthesize essential nutrients such as retinol, arginine, taurine, and arachidonic acid;
There’s another problem of the cat digestive system just being too short to handle most plant matter.
so if you want less soy farming you should drop the animal products
I want to. Well, not “drop” but rather “limit”. That’s exactly why I mentioned “excess” being the problem here.
You didn’t answer the question, though - how do you feel about the morality of topsoil degradation, greenhouse emissions and biodiversity reduction caused by most vegan food alternatives?
No it’s the act that’s wrong, needlessly killing other beings when we don’t have to is clearly evil.
Please reply to this question:
If you consider the “capability to consider the consequences of one’s actions” as the ultimate method of determining if killing is OK or not… then you should be equally fine with mentally disturbed humans killing other humans. Are you?
You wouldn’t accept these condition for “human farms”.
Which conditions? The majority of farms - sure, the conditions are horrible and it’s exactly what I’m saying we should eliminate. But there are modern farms that have conditions most of the human population would gladly sign up for. Damn, I’d be one of them!
Why be cruel when we can easily avoid it?
Precisely my point. That being said, there are a myriad of methods of killing an animal without being cruel.
You didn’t answer the question, though - how do you feel about the morality of topsoil degradation, greenhouse emissions and biodiversity reduction caused by most vegan food alternatives?
If you consider the “capability to consider the consequences of one’s actions” as the ultimate method of determining if killing is OK or not… then you should be equally fine with mentally disturbed humans killing other humans. Are you?
Mentally disturbed humans who act violently are still humans and part of our pack, I think we should make sure they don’t hurt others.
Which conditions? The majority of farms - sure, the conditions are horrible and it’s exactly what I’m saying we should eliminate.
The conditions of “humane” treatment but still killing.
But there are modern farms that have conditions most of the human population would gladly sign up for.
You seriously think that humans would sign up to get needlessly killed for profit/taste…?
Precisely my point. That being said, there are a myriad of methods of killing an animal without being cruel.
How do you ethically kill someone who doesn’t need or want to die?
Cats are obligate carnivores in nature because of taurine, cat food doesn’t have taurine because the ingredients are shit so synthetic taurine is added to meet the cat’s nutritional needs.
The same synthetic taurine is also added to plant based cat food so it meets the cat’s nutriotional needs.
Dogs are omnivores like us and can easily thrive on a plant based diet.
Yes let’s involve morality, needless killing of animals is immoral.
Most farm land is used for animal feed.
only 20% of soy is used for direct human consumption, the rest is animal feed, so if you want less soy farming you should drop the animal products.
No it’s the act that’s wrong, needlessly killing other beings when we don’t have to is clearly evil.
There is no way to ethically kill someone who doesn’t need or want to die.
You wouldn’t accept these condition for “human farms”.
Why be cruel when we can easily avoid it?
From the wiki:
There’s another problem of the cat digestive system just being too short to handle most plant matter.
I want to. Well, not “drop” but rather “limit”. That’s exactly why I mentioned “excess” being the problem here.
You didn’t answer the question, though - how do you feel about the morality of topsoil degradation, greenhouse emissions and biodiversity reduction caused by most vegan food alternatives?
Please reply to this question:
Which conditions? The majority of farms - sure, the conditions are horrible and it’s exactly what I’m saying we should eliminate. But there are modern farms that have conditions most of the human population would gladly sign up for. Damn, I’d be one of them!
Precisely my point. That being said, there are a myriad of methods of killing an animal without being cruel.
There’s protein in plant based cat food.
I did; Most farm land is used for animal feed., so plant based food uses way less farm land and thus causes way less degradation and emissions.
Mentally disturbed humans who act violently are still humans and part of our pack, I think we should make sure they don’t hurt others.
The conditions of “humane” treatment but still killing.
You seriously think that humans would sign up to get needlessly killed for profit/taste…?
How do you ethically kill someone who doesn’t need or want to die?