The return-to-office demands make little sense from an overall economic perspective, while working parents, in particular, benefit from not having to waste time commuting to an office, writes Peter Bergen.
Haven’t been to my new jobs office yet lol. At my last one I went a handful of times and I did enjoy it. But it’s definitely not something I could do even a day a week. Long costly drive. Plus my home office is so stacked now it sucks to leave it.
Yeah this conversation is a bit different if you can bicycle to work and enjoy it. Exercise, fresh air and social interactions are benefits here. The bigger issue is being forced to work on site when you don’t want to. Employers are even starting to offer two rates for jobs. On-site wage and remote wage. It’s the same work!!
The problem is compounded by shitty work standards.
If I’m salary why do I need to work 40 hours a week minimum?
Why do I have to start at 8am?
Why do I have to come into the office?
whats there to enjoy with flex seating stacked in like a boiler room? i watch old movies and yearn for the days of cubicles, those entitled bastards hating their shoulder high dividers didnt know how good they had it
There’s definitely something to be said for this. What I can’t understand, is a lot of these places are locked into long term lease holds. So the office is there whether they like it or not, through no decision or input or action of the employees. So why double down on bad decisions? Why not just treat adults like, you know, adults, and let them decide their best location for that day? Will some permanently stay home? Sure. Will some come into the office 5 days a week? Likely. Will some maybe come in for a change of scenery, or in certain situations for voluntary or collegial collaboration (which is supposed to be the whole point of this exercise, but notice the voluntary part)? Likely. And so what? Why risk pissing your employees off then, by forcing people in against free will?
After 3 years of working from home, I’m kind of enjoying my new job from office. We do have hybrid mode but I’m still new to qualify for that.
Haven’t been to my new jobs office yet lol. At my last one I went a handful of times and I did enjoy it. But it’s definitely not something I could do even a day a week. Long costly drive. Plus my home office is so stacked now it sucks to leave it.
I’m from India so my commute is just public transports and fair bit of walking.
I’m using it as a cardio exercise lol.
Yeah this conversation is a bit different if you can bicycle to work and enjoy it. Exercise, fresh air and social interactions are benefits here. The bigger issue is being forced to work on site when you don’t want to. Employers are even starting to offer two rates for jobs. On-site wage and remote wage. It’s the same work!!
The problem is compounded by shitty work standards. If I’m salary why do I need to work 40 hours a week minimum? Why do I have to start at 8am? Why do I have to come into the office?
whats there to enjoy with flex seating stacked in like a boiler room? i watch old movies and yearn for the days of cubicles, those entitled bastards hating their shoulder high dividers didnt know how good they had it
Well I’m a shy introvert so after working from home for almost 4 years I’m forcing myself to be around people.
And the office is in nice business park so feels nice to stroll through the campus with trees and fountain lol
There’s definitely something to be said for this. What I can’t understand, is a lot of these places are locked into long term lease holds. So the office is there whether they like it or not, through no decision or input or action of the employees. So why double down on bad decisions? Why not just treat adults like, you know, adults, and let them decide their best location for that day? Will some permanently stay home? Sure. Will some come into the office 5 days a week? Likely. Will some maybe come in for a change of scenery, or in certain situations for voluntary or collegial collaboration (which is supposed to be the whole point of this exercise, but notice the voluntary part)? Likely. And so what? Why risk pissing your employees off then, by forcing people in against free will?