• Windex007@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      I guess the difference is that you’re viewing history through a philosophical lens, whereas I’m viewing it through an anthropological/archaeological lens.

      I admit, I am biased to the belief that for the purposes of understanding history, these are more appropriate academic tools.

      I can’t stress this enough: you are continually attributing to me positions that I probably don’t hold (at least in the way that you’re keen to attribute).

      My only position is that it is disengenuous to represent human nature as being a certain way by refusing to acknowledge historical context. All (and I mean that, all) I am asking you to do is augment your position by including the reality of history, rather than rejecting the parts of it that you don’t want to deal with. I don’t even believe they’re incompatible, it just demands of you an expansion of your ideas.

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        9 months ago

        My only position is that it is disengenuous to represent human nature as being a certain way by refusing to acknowledge historical context.

        That’s what Marx’s historical materialism does.

        All (and I mean that, all) I am asking you to do is augment your position by including the reality of history, rather than rejecting the parts of it that you don’t want to deal with.

        I have acknowledged the violent past of humanity, but I understand they were shaped by socio-economic conditions.

        I don’t even believe they’re incompatible, it just demands of you an expansion of your ideas.

        My ideas are expanded by reading and understanding, not by demands. I’ll leave you with an article on Human Nature and the Alternative to Capitalism. It states:

        Our genetic speciality is that we are not specialised, not constrained by a range of instinctive behaviour. One result is that human beings can display very different forms of behaviour – ranging from great care for one another to selfishness and violence. The behaviour that predominates is not genetically determined.