Russian propaganda machine was full force in America during the 2016 election and I’m sure it still is quite active to an extent in the states. What’s the general feel for Russian propaganda in Ukraine? Are there many Russian-supporting Ukrainians? Do many of them change opinions once Russia is in their towns?
Uhh I should note that I’m quite ignorant on the subject and if my question makes you irritated - I’m sorry I don’t mean to start anything.
Preface: I’m what you’d call a “Russian Jew” (really Polish, Ukrainian Russian). Born in Toretsk. Lived in Poland and Ukraine for many years.
I can only speak about my experience. Those of us from Eastern Ukraine didn’t necessarily have a lot of love for Kyiv. Most of the animosity comes from the feeling of being forgotten. Eastern areas used to be mining/manufacturing hubs a long time ago and now are quite poor. A lot of cultural things are very Russian based (TV,Music, etc).
All that said the general consensus from most of us out here hasn’t been “wanting Russia to free us”. In fact most of us have been very tired of the insane corruption brough upon by “Russian Puppets”. Ukraine in general has been very corrupt.
Russian propaganda machine was full force in America during the 2016 election and I’m sure it still is quite active to an extent in the states.
please stop spreading misinformation https://jacobin.com/2023/01/hillary-clinton-russian-bots-2016-presidential-election-trump
More recent news of a Wagner official admitting to founding a troll farm - Not to say the article is incorrect at hillary being an unliked candidate in 2016.
The amount of money Prigozhin spent influencing the election in US is laughable compared to the overall campaign spending. If spending a few hundred thousand bucks could swing the election in US, that would be absolutely incredible. And once you actually read the article I linked you’ll realize that a new study of Russia-based Twitter posts by New York University researchers buries the liberal canard that Russian bots played any significant role in swinging the 2016 election for Donald Trump.
I know blueAnon love their Russiagate conspiracy theory, but it’s factually wrong and you gotta learn to deal with reality.
you gotta learn to deal with reality.
New Lemmy users: “you wanna bet?”
It’s pretty amusing to see how all the same people who make fun of qanon end up exhibiting exactly same behavior when it comes to conspiracies. Really shows that people aren’t all that different in the end, they just choose to believe different narratives and get upset when facts run contrary to them.
To deny Russia’s propaganda involvement is to have your head burried in the sand. Id suggest checking out the Mueller report
To pretend that Russia’s propaganda involvement plays a significant impact in US elections is contrary to the facts. I’d suggest you check out the Mueller report yourself, because it fails to show any actual substance.
Furthermore, other countries, such as Israel, play FAR bigger role in influencing US elections. Same goes for US oligarchs and large corporations. The fact that liberals in US continue to focus on Russia, while ignoring this shows that this is not rational adult behavior.
Finally, it’s worth noting that US itself does far greater interference in elections and politics across the globe.
