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“Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?” [Y/N]

  • mzesumzira@leminal.space
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    10 months ago

    I’m sorry, are you saying that millions of people, including children, all deserve to suffer because their establishment sucks?

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      10 months ago

      We elect our establishment. We don’t live in a dictatorship. You can’t argue that we collectively aren’t somewhat responsible for who we put in office.

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        10 months ago

        We are, to a point. US election system is particularly bad in representation, what with gerrymandering and voters disenfranchising, but even if it wasn’t it’s callous to say people deserve to suffer because they don’t understand what they’re voting for.

        You’re speaking from a position of privilege.

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          10 months ago

          it’s callous to say people deserve to suffer because they don’t understand what they’re voting for.

          How? Will live in age were information is more freely available than in any other part of history. It’s your responsibility to be an informed voter. Ignorance isn’t an excuse to give your vote away.

          You’re speaking from a position of privilege.

          As Americans we all are. We don’t live in a monarchy or a military dictatorship. Everyone is screaming about how important this election is for democracy but democracy is how we got here. Every person who instituted policies that encouraged voter disenfranchising and gerrymandering was voted in. Those who decided not to challenge these policies and kept the status quo were voted in. Facism doesn’t happen overnight. In a lot of cases the populace genuinely asks for it