Yes, I know it’s a Verge link, but I found the explanation of the legal failings quite funny, and I think it’s “important” we keep track of which obscenely rich people are mad at each other so we can choose which of their kingdoms to be serfs in.

  • cobra89@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    4 months ago

    Did you read the sentence directly after? They never claimed that non-written contracts don’t exist, they said they are very hard to uphold in court, which is perfectly true:

    proving that an unwritten contract exists, what its terms are, and if they are enforceable is extraordinarily difficult, and courts do not like doing it, especially for ultra-sophisticated parties with a long history of dealing.

    • cobra89@beehaw.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      4 months ago

      Also just to note, Nilay Patel literally has a JD, I think he knows that. Lol

    • tyler@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      4 months ago

      Saying “they need to be written down” and then immediately negating that point is absolutely terrible writing. And even a casual contract, like OpenAI’s where they literally have stated in writing for years what their “contract” is, would not be hard to understand.

      Musk is a moron and this is clearly a ploy to gain some sort of control over OpenAI, but OpenAI is breaking what they said their goal was. I know that doesn’t mean there’s a contract there, but it has been written down numerous times what he’s claiming “the contract” is.

      • sc_griffith@awful.systems
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        edit-2
        4 months ago

        Most importantly, contracts need to be written down — proving that an unwritten contract exists, what its terms are, and if they are enforceable is extraordinarily difficult, and courts do not like doing it, especially for ultra-sophisticated parties with a long history of dealing.

        this isn’t negating the point, it’s explaining the point: they need to be written down, here’s why. it’s like saying someone needs to train for a marathon to run one, because otherwise it will be very hard to avoid muscle damage. there’s no logical necessity but it makes sense as a practical claim