Far too often, lately, I see lots of people worried about the number of downvotes, or making preliminary justifications and requests to not downvote particular posts.

Me? I don’t have to think about any of that. The content of the posts and comments determines their quality, not some artificial number that only represents whether people dis/like something.

Edit: Wow, a lot of people from other instances seem really offended that I don’t like downvoting and seem a bit confused that I’d be thanking my admins for something I appreciate.

If you like downvoting, you don’t have to move here. Enjoy your instance’s features. Welcome to the Fediverse.

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    When downvotes are disabled, you depend solely on moderators to decide what kind of content is acceptable. As an anarchist, I abhor this.

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      You still do. The downvoted content doesn’t go away until it’s removed, and you run too much of a risk of mob mentality with downvoting for my taste

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        Suppose a cryptofascist is saying dogwhistles in a thread. If I report it, I’m depending on the moderators to either recognise the dogwhistles or listen to and trust my explanation. If downvotes were enabled, I could do something about the problem other than debating a fascist.

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          Thankyou for your opinion. As a non-reddthat user this stance does not have to make sense to you, nor do you need to worry about it, as it has completely no affect to you, nor your instance.

          Have a great day.

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            I’m a reddthat user. I’m using reddthat right now. You might be confused about that fact given I’m logged in to lemm.ee, but Lemmy has this feature called federation that lets me use reddthat remotely from other instances.

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              That is whole hardhearted wrong, on many levels. As the Admin of reddthat I have had to learn a lot about how federation works. You do not interact with Reddthat at all, you interact with Lemmee. Lemmee then connects and interacts with Reddthat.

              For a thought experiment, if Reddthat were to block Lemmee, you could still comment on this post, you could still interact with it, you could still make new posts in this community. The downside would be that all of those actions would only be visible to Lemmee’s users and Lemmee’s version of the community. Just like how if you downvote, your downvotes are viewable on your instance, but never make it to Reddthat. Later if Reddthat were to unblock it is possible there might be some merging of posts, comments and actions and re-federation. But let me make this clear. You are not a Reddthat user, you are a Lemm.ee user.

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                So you’re saying if I’m using service A to access service B, I’m not using service B?

                Well in that case, I’m not using reddthat, I’m using lemm.ee, you’re right. But I’m not using lemm.ee, I’m using Voyager. Voyager is making requests to lemm.ee on my behalf. If my account were deleted or the server were offline or I were in a tunnel, my comments I wrote in Voyager wouldn’t be delivered.

                And actually I’m not even using Voyager, I’m using Android. Android simply provides a user interface to access the data on Voyager. And I’m not using Android, I’m using my phone’s screen. And I’m not using my phone’s screen, I’m using my eyes and fingers, and I’m not using my eyes and fingers, I’m using my brain.

                Congratulations, your views on software usage reducto ad absurdum into solipsism.

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                    I’m not arguing about how Lemmy works. We both agree how Lemmy works. I’m arguing the philosophical premise that using an interface to access a remote service counts as using that service. This isn’t a technical problem, it’s philosophy. Also, appeal to authority fallacy. A very poorly done appeal to authority because the authority isn’t relevant to the question.

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              You’re not on this instance, and that’s the point. You’re using this instance as a federated user in the same way you use a website, but you don’t have a login to this instance, therefore you are not a Reddthat user.

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                The word you’re looking for is “loginner”. I am not a reddthat loginner. But I sure am using it.