• mesamune@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    downdetector

    Looks like it may have been AWS or something. All kinds of services were down a moment ago. Guess thats what happends when everything is on major cloud services.

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      8 months ago

      Google have their own data centres (and cloud) so it may be something more in the connectivity area.

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        8 months ago

        Maybe, I would expect redundancy. But ultimately I have no clue. I just remember the last time AWS went down. It seemed that a majority of the sites that I used daily were down all in one go.

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          Sometimes redundancy doesn’t help when it comes to network traffic routing. That system is based heavily on trust and an incorrect route being published can cause recursive loops and such that get propagated very quickly to everyone.

          There was a case like this a few years back where a bad route got published by a small ISP, claiming they could handle traffic to a certain set of destinations, but then immediately trying to send that traffic back out again (because they couldn’t actually route to that destination), which bounced right back to them because of the bad route. It was propagated based on implicit trust and took down huge chunks of the Internet for a while

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              8 months ago

              Yes, BGP Route Hijacking can be done maliciously although things like BGPSec can make it harder to pull off.

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              8 months ago

              It affected the full 8 billion people in the world, not just the few hundred million on the US.

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                8 months ago

                So? What does that matter, as long as it impacts the ability of poll watchers and legal support to communicate about illegal manipulation?

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                    8 months ago

                    This is an example of how you can make factually true statements that are contextually irrelevant.

                    When a major outage occurs on the day in US politics when 15 states all vote for their party nominees, it’s not unreasonable to question whether there was malicious intent.

                    You’re like a “not all men” or “all lives matter” person barging into a conversation, hijacking a perfectly reasonable discussion to push your agenda. Just stop.

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              Yup! BGP is an absolute mess and it is kind of a disgrace that it’s still the lynchpin of the internet

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      8 months ago

      Infrastructure seems likely, but probably not AWS because it affected Google and Facebook so strongly. If it were AWS you’d see Amazon getting badly affected and AWS itself, followed by everyone who relies on AWS for infrastructure.