Democratic West Virginia senator calls the Inflation Reduction Act, hailed as ā€˜biggest step on climate crisisā€™, a ā€˜radical agendaā€™

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    You canā€™t gerrymander a statewide race like senator or governor, because everyone in the state gets to vote, thereā€™s no districts to draw.

    At a national level (as in its three house reps) itā€™s so red that no matter how you draw it theyā€™re all going to be red.

    At the state level, they have 100 house districts and 34 for the senate drawn by the Republican legislature that are certainly gerrymandered (couldnā€™t find much about the specifics though except this.)

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      See my comment below, you can absolutely gerrymander the state level politicians that make the laws for the statewide elections.

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        I agree the gerrymandering of state districts can definitely influence the outcome of statewide races, but they cannot directly gerrymander the senate race because the only ā€œdistrictā€ is the state itself which cannot be redrawn.

        So looking at the original question, are they gerrymandering the senate seat? No, they canā€™t. Are they unfairly influencing outcomes of the race through other means? Probably. Will it make a difference in terms of WV voting for a dem thatā€™s not Manchin (ie is it ā€œrealā€)? Probably no because the only thing keeping a (more or less) Dem senator in a state that went 70% for Trump is incumbency and his special relationship to the coal industry.

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          Iā€™m not sure why youā€™re getting downvoted, itā€™s a fair answer even though I think gerrymandering is definitely being set up across the country and I donā€™t agree with that part.

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            Haha itā€™s ok. Iā€™m not saying that gerrymandering isnā€™t a problem or that itā€™s not happening literally all the time as much as possible.

            All I mean is that you canā€™t gerrymander a federal senate seat. You can gerrymander the state legislature districts that control many of the aspects of voting for that statewide seat, but you cannot redraw (ie gerrymander) Joe Manchinā€™s senate seat without some minor civil wars with WVā€™s neighbor states.

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              I agree with that part, but whatā€™s the difference if itā€™s not direct? Regardless, it sounds like itā€™s a pretty red state anyway.

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                To me itā€™s just about the definition of the word. It would be incorrect to say, ā€œThe WV legislature gerrymandered Joe Manchinā€™s senate seat.ā€ Because gerrymandering means redrawing districts. You can totally say ā€œThe gerrymandered WV legislature passed laws that make it harder for Joe Manchin to be elected.ā€ While gerrymandering affects the outcome, what theyā€™re doing to Joe Manchinā€™s district is not gerrymandering.