When I say “fake fireplace”, I mean something like those structures fueled by fossil methane that produce flame and heat but obviously don’t burn actual wood

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    8 months ago

    Plasma is a bit hotter than your gas fireplace flame. Common lighter flame is at about 600 deg C and while it’s possible to create plasma which is nearly ambient temperature in controlled environments it’s generally tens of thousands of degrees (plasma arc welding for example) up to tens or hunderds of million degrees celsius (inside fusion generator).

    That’s mostly why fusion energy is so difficult problem to solve in the first place as there’s no materials which could withstand the heat. So, no, it wouldn’t be useful as a fireplace. It would of course radiate heat, but it would also light your (and your neighbours) house on fire, so not that useful.

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      8 months ago

      Not to mention that the plasma arc would be so bright that it would blind you.

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        Even worse, wavelengths of light change based on temperature so multi million degree plasma will blast you with ultraviolet and X-ray radiation

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          And that’s why you can get a sunburn if you’re welding without proper clothing/protection.

          Technically speaking nothing is stopping you from building a plasma fireplace right now, it doesn’t need fusion energy. Just grab a stick welder transformer and place couple of carbon rods carefully next to each other. That might be a bit loud, a bit bright for your living room and might set things on fire and have other minor issues like killing your wifi-signal, but it could be done.

          Or if you’re satisfied with a bit smaller “flame” you can get a plasma lighter from amazon for 10-20€.

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          8 months ago

          on the plus side, your teeth will never be whiter! or your bones!

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    Nuclear fusion will happen inside a power plant far away and homes will get the electricity like from any other power plants. So no.

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    8 months ago

    Even if your home is powered by nuclear energy, you still don’t have uranium fuel rods in your fireplace.

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      True, but I was specifically talking about nuclear fusion, which would entail helium/hydrogen plasma rather than fissionable material.

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          It’d heat up the room, though. And the next couple of rooms. Or houses.

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          No, that still probably wouldn’t work out, as the other comments have pointed out. Just clarifying that the dangerous aspects of what I asked wouldn’t involve uranium in particular.

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    Plasma for fusion is at insane temperature and pressure to make fusion possible, to overcome the repulsive force that keeps protons apart by sheer velocity of the colliding nuclei. So you wouldn’t have that kind of plasma in a fireplace generally. But you can get room temperature plasma today without fusion, look up plasma balls… That could make a cool (but not fire-like) fireplace, if it could be engineered into another form factor

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      6 months ago

      Yeah, maybe it would make more sense to just hook up an electrical mimic-fireplace to a fusion reactor’s electrical output, than to use the actual helium plasma exhaust to mimic flames, come to think of it.

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        I’ve seen some fake fireplaces that use steam and lights to look like fire, you could use steam from waste heat from the fusion reactor?